Benchmark confirms 1080p display for Sony C660X ‘Yuga’

by XB on 14/10/2012

in Rumours


We are slowly piecing together a jigsaw of some awesome hardware for Sony Mobile’s 2013 flagship device(s). What we know so far is that there will be two sibling flagships – the Sony C650X ‘Odin’ (C6502, C6503, C6506) and Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ (C6603). They will be armed with a 1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chipset (APQ8064 & Adreno 320 graphics) and MDM9615 baseband chip with LTE support. These phones are currently being tested with Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean and 10.1.A.0.XXX firmware.

Now we can confirm that the Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ will have a 1080p (1920 x 1080) display following an appearance in the NenaMark2 benchmark. The benchmark actually points to a resolution of 1794 x 1080, but 126 pixels are likely being used for the on-screen buttons introduced in Android Ice Cream Sandwich. The entry has already been removed from the NenaMark website, but still appears in Google Cache results.

Screen size still remains a mystery for now, but we can make some educated guesses. It is very unlikely to be sub 5-inches given the 1080p display resolution. We know that LG and Sharp have announced their own 5-inch 1080p displays. However, the biggest hint comes from a recent announcement from Japan Display Inc (JDI). For those that don’t know, JDI is a new company for small and medium-sized displays formed in April 2012 through the integration of Sony Mobile Display, Toshiba Mobile Display and Hitachi Displays. It recently announced that it has started to mass produce a 5.0-inch TFT-LCD IPS display module with 1080 x 1920 pixel resolution and 443 PPI.

We do wonder if a smartphone display with pixel density over 400 PPI is a bit overkill though and whether we’d even be able to tell the difference from a 300 PPI device. We’re also not sure what kind of demands this would have on battery life, but it sounds superb nonetheless and all evidence suggests it will come to the next Sony Xperia flagship.

Via Rbmen.

Thanks @musumappa!

  • thorsten

    Hopefully they will be able to keep the device relatively small, like SGS3 at least

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000092374667 Glen Flores Limbago

    Wow i will buy this phone… Goodbye Xperia S…

  • ahomad hosin

    could be a new tab?

  • Gökay Kaya

    Thats interesting, if this specs are true, Sony cant stay behind the other companys … Full HD and S4 Pro …

  • http://twitter.com/snoe_ii AJ シ

    OMG !
    Bring it on Sony !
    if it equipped with cyber-shot , for sure i’ll buy it !

  • goldenblls

    I’m salivating already. Please, please, please ship it soon after announcement. My money will be burning a hole in my pocket.

  • http://twitter.com/MynamesRive Riccardo Verde

    If you compare a Droid Razr M to Xperia V it’s embarassing in dimensions. I hope odin and yuga will be not that big models, but quite for sure they will show dimensions like Samsung Galaxy Note II and 5″ HTC Phablet.

  • Hannad Ahmed

    Our time is now! Tonight we FEAST !!

  • AnP

    THIS WILL BE THE ULTIMATE SONY PHONE.

    GENERAL
    2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
    4G/LTE 700MHz Class 17/1700/2100
    PLATFORM
    OS Android 4.2 JB
    Processor Quad Core Krait 1.7Ghz Qualcomm APQ8064
    Graphics Adreno 320
    Java Yes
    Browser HTML-5, Adobe Flash
    Radio Yes
    DISPLAY
    Type LED-Backlit IPS LCD; 16M Colors; Capacitative Touch Screen
    Size 4.8″/5.0″
    Resolution FHD 1920X1080
    Multi Touch Yes, up to 4 fingers
    Technology Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine-2/X-Reality Engine
    MEMORY
    Card Slot Yes, up to 32GB
    Internal 32GB
    Memory 2GB RAM

    DATA/CONNECTIVITY
    GPRS Yes, 86kbps
    EDGE Yes, 237kbps
    3G HSDPA 21.1Mbps; HSUPA 5.8Mbps; LTE Cat3 50Mbps UL, 100Mbps DL
    Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, Dual Band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
    Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 A2DP, EDR
    NFC Yes
    DLNA Yes
    GPS Yes, with a-GPS & GLONASS
    Tethering USB, Wi-Fi Hotspot
    USB Yes, micro USB v2
    HDMI/MHL Yes
    CAMERA
    Primary 13MP, 4000X3000 pixels Sony EXMOR-RS
    Video 1080p, 30fps, continuous autofocus, video light & stabilizer
    Zoom Digital, up to 10x
    Secondary Yes, 2MP 720p at 30fps
    Features Auto-focus, Geo-Tagging, touch focus, face & smile detection, 3D sweep panaroma, image stabilization, red-eye reduction
    Flash Yes

    SOUND Alert Vibration; MP3 Ringtones
    Loudspeaker Yes
    3.5mm Jack Yes
    Enhancements Xloud Loudness Enhancement Engine, TrackID music recognition, Clear Audio+

    OTHER FEATURES
    Sensors Accelorometer, Gyro, Digital Compass, Proximity, Ambient Light Sensor
    Applications Google Search, Maps, Navigation, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Android Market
    Audio Formats MP3/eAAC/WMA/WAV/M4A
    Video Formats MP4/AVI/MOV/WMV/H.263/H.264/MKV/HD Movie Playback
    Battery Standard Removable, Li-Ion 3000mAh

  • Isaac Asimov

    The Best Screen Size for Smart Mobile Devices
    4.3″ for Smartphone
    5″ -5.3″ for Phablet
    12″ for Tablet

  • Isaac Asimov

    Flag as inappropriateThe Best Screen Size for Smart Mobile Devices
    4.3″ for Smartphones
    5″ -5.3″ for Phablets
    12″ for Tablets

  • xperia

    SOny Luv u :-*

  • Mark phillips

    I hope things just turn around for Sony and they just sh*t loads on Samdung’s face!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jose.noguera.161 Jose Noguera

    1080p resolution is completely useless on a mobile display.

  • Rune Christiansen

    I’d definitely say that over 350ppi is overkill as no matter how close you get to the Xperia S screen, you can’t see individual pixels. I really don’t mind if they push the boundaries, but they have to make it run smoothly, which is still a problem on many their devices.

  • lovebmw

    Here is what amazes me, if Sony gets those sites out, wouldn’t the processor be behind for that era? I mean, Samsung and lg will not issue a phone with these processor specs I am sure they will come up with something faster These processor specs are already in their current phones…

  • amgh

    i hate phablet i hope this is phone with 4.6 display size

  • yeo wee kian

    ok enough. i will wait for it. so what if my contracts end now!

  • Nasar Khan

    Finally Sony have decided to bring out a proper beast of a phone. The hardware will be the best around. If the design of the phone is right which it usually is then this will be a definite winner for next year. Just one thing… I would like to see Sony improving the viewing angles on their future phones.

    Looks like I won’t be keeping this Xperia T for very long. Shame really as it’s a very good phone and the best Sony phone I have ever used.

  • Mark phillips

    For Samsung HTC and LG they will come up with A15 processor dual core thats inside Iphone but atleast Sony will be considered a major player from now on! Be positive.

  • lovebmw

    I am trying to be positive, but again that is aiming for the best phone at second place…. interesting to see what is up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/da.fuq.33 Ingus Moonlit

    I concur

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Prateek-Bhanushali/100001183530114 Prateek Bhanushali

    I think this phone will be Full HD all-round like Xperia S, Front Camera will be 1080p capable, Recordind of rear camera should be 60fps……

  • Crapz

    1080p is awesome…but thing is, sony usually will put low capacity battery on its phone…hope this phone will have <2500mah or else forget it…

  • zaryab

    How can you forget to mention the gamepad like Xperia Play

  • Aj

    Multi touch upto 10 fingers

  • Aj

    Hmmmm i dont think how many of us will buy a 5 inch smartphone…..but sony might convert galaxy note fans in buying this phone

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abhishek-Dahiya/100001675198800 Abhishek Dahiya

    i also said this in the earlier post and again i am going to say this… believe it or not!!! It entirely depends on you…
    4 days ago phonearena and a lot other sites reported abt XPERIA ODIN specs… but to my surprise XB didn’t even care to report those leaked specs…Actually i was the one to tip phonearena abt the specs of ODIN(i found all that info in esato forums courtesy of a sony insider known as “randomuser”).The same specs are now being confirmed by XB tipsters.i am now going to provide a lot more detail abt SONY’S 2013 lineup!!! (these too have been revealed by randomuser). Here it is—In 2013 there will be 3 SONY flagships.In CES 2013 there will be twin XPERIA phones (DOGO) with slightly less specs as compared to ODIN and YUGA.In MWC 2013 SONY will unviel ODIN and YUGA(another twin phones)And in the 2nd half of 2013 there will be another flagship(even more powerful than ODIN, YUGA)These are more specs of SONY’S upcoming flagships-ODIN->* 5 inch IPS screen with 1080p resolution (manufactured by JAPAN DISPLAYS, a joint venture of SONY). Japan Displays will start the mass production of these screens during this month.* 2-3 gb ram (nothing is confirmed as of now)* 1.5 GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 chipset (APQ8064)* android jelly bean/nxt android iteration (jelly bean is only for prototype devices)YUGA->Exactly same specs as ODIN, but screen of YUGA will be of 6 inch with same resolutionthat’s why YUGA codename is higher(C660x) as compared to ODIN (C650x)
    THE nxt Flagship in 2nd half of 2013 will come with either QUALCOMM MSM8974 or NovaThor 9600.Diff. bet APQ8064 and MSM8974 APQ8064 – 28nm – Quad Core Krait 1.5-1.7GHz – Adreno 320 – Can capture 1080p@24/30fps – BT4+WiFi a/b/g/n + No Cell Modem
    MSM8974 – 28nm – Quad Core Krait 2.0-2.5GHz – Adreno 320 – Can capture 1080p@60fps – BT4+WiFi a/b/g/n/ac + LTE + HSPA+ networks

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abhishek-Dahiya/100001675198800 Abhishek Dahiya

    some people might not believe it but not even a single part of it is speculation!!!
    all the info i mentioned here comes from “randomuser” from ESATO forums…
    he knew about Xperia ODIN, YUGA, DOGO, GAGA and their specs back in JUNE 2012 when nobody even had a clue about what sony 2013 flagships will be like.
    Head on to ESATO forums( u can find the exact link in phonearena’s post abt leaked specs of ODIN) and see and confirm urself through his posts made in june 2012.

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    It would be a “beast of a phone” IF Sony would release it in the coming weeks and not in Q2 2013. The specs are similar to those of the LG Optimus G despite the 1080p display, but the LG phone is already available in some markets. And not to forget the “Oppo Find 5″ which has all the rumored specs of the upcoming Sony devices (5″ 1080p display, S4 Quad, 2GB RAM…), but the Oppo won’t be released sometime next year, but in the coming weeks.
    You see, by the time Sony launches their H1 flagships, spec-wise they won’t be outstanding like they would be now (compared to other high end devices of course)

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    You can keep on waiting till you die. By time the Odin/Yuga is available there will be rumors/ leaks of better speced device e.g. Cortex A-15, 128GB flash, 4GB RAM…

  • Chelios

    Don’t talk crap. Sony might put in small batteries, but they last forever. I can easily get 2 days and a half of moderate use out of my Xperia S.

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    I don’t need huge quad core devices with insane 1080p displays which won’t last a day! Give me decent sized device (4,2-4,5″) with a 720p display, an outstanding camera (no Megapixel race anymore, please!) which deserves to be branded Cybershot AND put an insane big battery in it > 3200mAh!!! It doesn’t matter if the device becomes 2-3 millimeters thicker because of a huge battery.

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    Nope! Not for marketing purpose! ;)

  • Lunkz

    5 inch display? This is to huge for a smartphone.
    IMHO 4,2 inches are the best size for my pocket, how should I put a 5 inch without the case in my pocket? This is madness!

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    More likely is Quad Core A15 in SGS4

  • Lunkz

    /sign

  • Lunkz

    please with xenon flash and led for video

  • http://twitter.com/thezymo zymo

    Madness?! THIS IS SONY!!! (Sorry couldn’t resist)

  • XYZ

    I’m pretty sure they’ll have a smaller phone out there too. But this one is probably aimed at the Galaxy Note market. Might eat into it too with that FHD display.

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  • Lunkz

    i hope so

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johan-Nilsson/664148428 Carl-Johan Nilsson

    As we use our phones more and more, carrying a larger device becomes more valuable and less of a hassle.
    The ppi is welcomed in my opinion, and should be by anyone with average-good vision.
    The only thing that could be commented on is the actual size. Some people (like me) do not want 5″ devices. 1080p videos need LTE for streaming, but these devices seem to have that. But I’d love to see the same ppi in a smaller device.

  • http://twitter.com/snoe_ii AJ シ

    oh .. miss my old k850i .. what a great camera phone !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johan-Nilsson/664148428 Carl-Johan Nilsson

    Samsung will probably use a new Exynos for their flagship.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johan-Nilsson/664148428 Carl-Johan Nilsson

    DisplayMate calculated that average vision eyes on a 20 year old are able to see up to 457 ppi at a distance of 12 inches.
    It is not about making out pixels. Lines and color-blends are notably nicer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alvin.zahranmajid Alvin Zahran Majid

    holy f***!!!!

  • naathaanS

    Now I really have to wait till Sony’s next Xperia line up

  • XYZ

    Holy ****! 60fps on a 1080p Screen!? That is hench.

  • Arie

    That’s DEFINITELY my phone!!! Great camera & great battery life with awesome display! I mean awesome, not super HUGE!!

  • th3d

    What? People r buying 4.8 inch phones like crazy, and you think they will stay away from a 5 inch phone? Just give it a slim bezel like Moto did with Razr HD and it will be an immense success, and still smaller than SGS3.

  • Curious

    Wait, if the screen display itself is already 5″, wouldn’t that make the overall device ALMOST the size of the Samsung’s Note series? Could this be Sony’s starting series of “note” devices?

  • Awesome

    I’m assuming you don’t call or turn on 3G much.. Mine’s usually about 1 FULL day,24hrs, average… Not that i’m displease with it, in fact, compared to the phone the rest of my friends had, it’s already considered awesome.

  • Mariano

    bla bla bla

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johan-Nilsson/664148428 Carl-Johan Nilsson

    Yuga is the DC character, based on Norse mythology. An enemy of Odin.
    http://www.netbrawl.com/matchup.php?mid=3767&bracketid=270

  • http://twitter.com/Gitaroo236 Gitarooman

    they are already testing S4 pro, the quad core processor, consider that the s4 dual core can handle 1080p 30hz fine, the s4 pro should be more than enough for 1080p 60hz.

  • AnP

    Agreed, but on a realistic note, can we ever really use 10 fingers at once! :) But yeah, it’s worth noting… This was something I compiled long ago. Excuse the shortcoming..

  • AnP

    As much as that is a good thing, in a smartphone with 4.8″ or higher screen size, you really wouldn’t want it to be a slide just to house a game pad! That would be good on something on the same lines or size of the Play!

  • AnP

    I can’t believe someone actually VOTED DOWN this! As of today’s trends and market viability, what the f**k more does this person want?!?!?!

  • pepe london

    +BLE 4.0 +HS, bosh barometer sensor, and Ant+

  • Rene

    Mirrorlink

  • Putra

    OH EM GEEEEEEEE!!! I have an Xperia S and the screen is superb! how bout this? gonna be very very super amazing!! :O

  • Kaostheory

    Depends on the bezel

  • jxPerience

    Finally my beloved SONY will fight HEAD TO HEAD next year!

  • DJMashup

    Not everybody wants a huge screen, I don’t give a shit what other people are buying and your generalistic comment makes it sound like you want a phone the size of a tablet so that means everybody should, more to the point, some of us actually use phones for their main use, I have an iPad and a Nexus 7 so why the fuck do I need a 5″ screen on my phone? don’t make yourself sound like an ass by speaking for everybody, hopefully Sony don’t start thinkiing like you.

  • DJMashup

    From the sound of it you don’t have many friends, 2 days? seriously!

  • DJMashup

    How many flagships will there be then? There’s about 4 at the moment and they have gone overkill with the entry level phones, talk about a load of shit. Don’t get me wrong, I love some of them but specs wise most of them suck and there all behind my Ray, the top end phones obviously aren’t but there isn’t one of them that I rate on design, size or specs I actually need and care about.

  • DJMashup

    I’m hoping they bring out a new phone that is the size of the Ray or U maybe but with a good camera in, all the new phones are a step back from my Ray apart from processor which means nothing for anyone who uses their phones for the normal things like calls, messages, camera, music and I don’t need quad core for that. What I do need is a phone that looks nice, isn’t the size of a tablet but has a good camera, Sony’s recent approach seems to be one of if it isn’t a huge phone then it doesn’t get any decent specs which as phones like the Arc S, Ray etc prove, there is a huge market for smaller phones and those people don’t want to have to compromise quality just to have a smaller screen.

  • Aj

    It is very useful specialing playing emulator playstation games :)….xperia t,tx,v have 10 fingers multi touch :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Mahesh46 Mahesh Warun

    den go get urself an Xperia Tipo, if u want it to be pocket frndly

  • Lunkz

    The Tipo IMHO ugly and the specs too.
    The V is a great phone has the great size with his 4,3 inches

  • Skeith Levion

    Technology Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine-2/X-Reality Engine
    X-Reality is overkill, that would make Shamesung gimmick Super AMOLED Plus looks like crap.

    Multi Touch Yes, up to 4 fingers
    Why not ten fingers ???

  • Cloud

    5 inch phones is a big phone and look ugly as shit!!!

  • jxPerience

    who will buy LG phones? I dont see anyone in my place. LG Optimus G is promising but with that brand name it will not sell as good as its specs.

  • Nex

    13 Megapixel Exmor RS sensor is nice. I would use 5 Mpx output as default, and switch to 13 Mpx anytime I want highest definition for later processing, mostly when no real camera around.

  • TjaldidTjaldid

    didn’t someone post a link that said that they were making a 6″ and 5″ screen

  • TjaldidTjaldid

    not when you connect it to a TV for 1080P out put

  • adsada_arc

    Sony should definitely stick an OLED screen in thier 2013 flagship, if they want to compete with others such as superamoled they need something more to sell then just ‘bravia engine’ which I don’t think consumers care about this tbh. Plus their viewing angles suck on all their current devices which is annoying when showing stuff to friends

  • TjaldidTjaldid

    that is in U.S.A time= Year.Month.day

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  • i hope my dream will come true

    Yeah! Great idea, maybe Xperia Play 2 will come with 5 inches screen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashad.mamood Ashad Mamood

    Sony Xperia P is a good looking small and powerfull phone and the camera is decent!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashad.mamood Ashad Mamood

    Agreed

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashad.mamood Ashad Mamood

    We can but dream

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashad.mamood Ashad Mamood

    Standard battery for flagship should be at least 25000ma

  • TjaldidTjaldid

    this is going to need White magic.

  • Dacha

    Based on rumors it will be the same size as the Xperia Ion.

  • Dacha

    You might not believe me but Dogo as a bigger Xperia V with Quad Core krait 4.6 inch 720p screen

  • K1

    No phablet, dont care phablet, we need xperia phone and tablet.

  • metcarded

    The only thing I want from Sony is better battery performance.
    I will buy this 5inch phone or any other sub 4inch phone from sony without second thought if they stick a battery in there that can run the display for at least 8 hours at reasonable brightness levels.

  • Samuel Serafim

    Better tablets on the way. I hope they remember Android Tablets above $300.00 doesnt sell.

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  • jag

    really, people nowadays are hard to please.

  • jag

    just buy a vita and a phone. you wont regret it.

  • jag

    yep.. also their UI is so terrible.

  • jag

    hahahahahaha! made me laugh

  • jag

    then another rumors about a sony “beast” will come and everyone will hold their money and wait for it again. endless cycle.

  • paul4id

    It is an absurd specification, that is wildly impractical and will only be of interest to a few niche buyers. However, it is something that Sony must release to shut-up the stupid tech journalists who claim that unless Sony releases a phone with a 20″ screen and 3000 core processor and £5000 price-tag then Sony will be “behind” and “irrelevant”.

  • paul4id

    Indeed, the Motorola RAZR M is a good template to follow. A 4.2″ screen in a compact package and massive battery. Justuse a better screen technology and add a QWERTY version and you have a sale.

  • AnP

    1080p or Full HD coming to mobile displays is good. But am shocked how come Sony of all decided to take the desperate jump to 5″ or more phone size! 5″ may still be considerably okay with respect to the already existent Note II. But rumors of a 6″ seems a bit way too much! I really hope they stop at 5″ & don’t just blindly follow ‘the competition’. Sony, please don’t get so lost in competition that you go overboard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nafatha Nur Adiyat Fatha Husein

    I’m curious about the beauty of its design, should be amazing…

  • http://www.facebook.com/roosh.t4 Notável Roosh II

    Zoom Digital, up to 10x – Won’t happen… if this is on a smartphone…. it would look like crappy

  • Aj

    If the specs r true…. one thing is for sure that it will sell like hot cakes irrespective of who among ourselves buys it or not :)

  • mountain

    If they can make a 1080p smartphone, why can’t they bother make a 1080p tablet? I mean, the Xperia Tablet is nice, but if they have the same spec, as Yuga, but a larger screen, I am sure I would find some use.

  • i’m gamer

    i hope it will be xperia play 2 …

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  • xyz

    Hey, I want a Phablet that isn’t running the abomination that is TouchWiz.

  • evita

    You bastard stolen information from other without give them proper credit, still pure bullshite speculation. acting idiot like you’re first to provide those leaked.

  • amgh

    @aed50d621e031964ff04272efae95a7f:disqus i hate phablet but i hope this is phone with 4.6-inch oled display size

  • XYZ

    Apparently, the phone is roughly the same size as the Xperia Ion, in terms of overall body size; they say that the bezel has been significantly reduced, so it should fir just fine.

  • Elektro

    Hopefully soon Sony will creat their own SoC.

  • Elektro

    Hopefully soon Sony will make their own SoC.

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  • Chelios

    3g is on at all times, I never turn it off. Push email enabled at all times at well. Note that I said moderate use, I can’t get a day out of it with regular heavy use. But if needed I can get it past 2 and a half days easily. I’d suggest spending some time with your phone and setting it up properly. It can only take one app or widget to steal hours of your battery life.

  • baraa

    5 inch 1080 display on a Sony smartphone !!! TAKE MY FUCKIN MONEY ALREADY <3

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  • cunt

    Not everyone wants a ridiculous sized screen

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  • JohnZn

    Wut? I can use my ion for 4 hours and then it’s death! Normal use while working will last for 8 hours… Bit this isththe longest duration my phone can stand with one battery…

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  • Novazane

    Overkill with 1920*1080 resolution. I’ve been waiting for this moment over an year now!

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