Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 805 chipset; could we see this in an upcoming Xperia?

by XB on 21st November 2013

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chip-800-472x292Qualcomm has unveiled its latest chipset in the form of the Snapdragon 805 “Ultra HD” Processor. The Snapdragon 805 has a Krait 450 quad-core CPU with 2.5GHz clock speeds. It features the new Adreno 420 GPU, which Qualcomm claims delivers 40 percent more GPU power than that found in the Snapdragon 800 chipset (Adreno 330).

It says that users will be able to experience images and graphics at Ultra HD (4K) resolution, both on device and via Ultra HD TVs. This would include 4K video capture and playback and enhanced dual camera Image Signal Processors (ISPs). Other features include Gpixel/s throughput camera support and support for Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) for video post processing.

In more recent times, Sony has been using the latest mobile chipsets from Qualcomm, so there is hope that we will see an Xperia device with this powerful chipset at some point in 2014. Qualcomm says it expects the Snapdragon 805 chipset to launch in commercial devices by the first half of 2014.

  • Reventon

    I hope not.

    The only reason I decided not to wait for the Z2 is because its not going to come with a new processor.

    Now my Z1 can only be the best of Sony for another 2 months…

  • @atWidget

    2013 S800 Full HD
    2014 S805 4K
    2015 S900 8K ?

    Like my wife say: “too fast”

  • Ahmed JS Shaheen

    peopel still couldnt join enough the snapdragon 800 and now you hitting us with 805 !!
    where shall i go from here :D

  • well, S800 pretty much became worthless now.

  • xperiaDROID

    Have no fear, cuz Mediatek MT6592 true Octa core processor is here!

  • xperiaDROID

    Oh great, now Snapdragon 800 processor is not so wow anymore? Luckily I didn’t upgrade to the Xperia Z1. I’m sticking with my Z and wait for the Z2.

    Buy what I’m worry about is that the Z2 will have the Snapdragon 800 and not the 805.

  • xperiaDROID

    So, the Snapdragon 800 processor is not so wow anymore? Luckily I didn’t upgrade to the Xperia Z1.

  • Mac

    man.. I ain’t gonna buy no expensive ass phone in the 4-4,6″ range just cuz it is going to be, Yay 4k screen..
    at least the z1s is going to be cheaper ofter this. Hopefully.

  • hans

    so what? you dont do any rendering on a phone do you? plus the fact is, even with s800 you got throttling after playing real racing for about 10 minutes, i have one on zu so i can prove that. i bet the s805 will do no better than that. they always told you that it will be more efficient and all, BUT without die shrink you only can do so much to reduce power usage on load.

  • Kevin

    You are a lier I have seen videos and reviews and they say ZU is great at gameplay and that the screen is great, maybe ur ZU is deffective or something but i don’t believe you start throttling with only 10 minutes only maybe if u said like 25-30 minutes maybe i’d believe you

  • xperiaDROID

    His Z Ultra is throttling is because he download too many porn.

  • cherry

    sigh, not another kidney… :<

  • @atWidget

    S805, S900…etc I still prefere S800, and you know why? because for me (it’s not officiel of course) the official Android processor is the S800 because the last Nexus have it. So, if your device have the same processor than the Nexus 5 (Z1, ZU, G2, Galax… oh, sorry not the S4 :p) … don’t worry ;).

    I know it’s stupid because nobody said that in google, but for me there is “official” CPU, I mean “step”… like the S4 PRO and now the S800, and after the ??? (Nexus 6).

    The S805 is just a step, Nexus 5 doen’t have the S805 and the next Nexus will not have the S805 but S900 (or other name)

  • Ethan ‘blaze’ Parker

    Nexus is crap you know. There’s no such thing as “official CPU”.

  • The Rock

    Your wife says ‘too fast’? Does she mean you’re too fast in performance? Just curious… O_O;

  • @atWidget

    Congratulations. You understand my joke ! … O_O

  • @atWidget

    I just think if you have the same cpu than nexus 5 its good for updates roms etc… But I know yourr right there is no official cpu.

  • @atWidget

    No. Its because HTC will die.

  • Ethan ‘blaze’ Parker

    Its all about the main board actually, Like all 2011 Xperias had the same board thus they have a huge cross development going on. P.S. Even Nexus has issues.

    https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085?hl=en&ref=nf

  • Kevin

    That is an option lol

  • Utsav Shah

    So this means we are going to see devices with 4K displays?
    Oh c’mon! This is insane !
    720p displays are still great. I mean who needs such big displays on mobile?
    Hardwares are on too high level; improve the software first!

  • insanity

    I don’t need it… But it’s definitely a good to have, and does improves the user experience. It’s like back then when 420p displays were considered high-res on mobile devices, and anything higher is just ‘insane’.

  • Utsav Shah

    420p is also a respectable screen.
    I appreciate the improvements in chipsets but using higher res screens at the same time leaves the performance as it is.
    This is why iphones have way better graphic performance than androids.

  • pradeep
  • Patrol619

    Good bye Xperia Z1 ;)

  • Jobs

    Wait, mid-2014 is only 2 months away?

  • JG

    Funny!! Though, I liked your comment.

  • x-periance

    Its time for sony to deliver a better display and good camera spec . The processor already great but the display and the camera processing need to be enhanced. 20.7mp without a good software processing will end up just like a normal camera phone with no ” wow” factor. The display on z1 were good but not as good comparing their tablet n phablet , the overdose brightness kill all the contrass and creating problem in certain angel. Just hopingsony will release a better phone in future.

  • boosook

    We will see it in a Sony smartphone in 2015! :)

  • Anukul

    xperia z2 with ips display, less bezel, this processor and there you have a winner

  • shayan gozarabadi

    of course.. we’ll see it in an upcoming inferior screen.awful battery life,huge bezels xperia!

  • raxxta

    Shh the huge bezel thing is extremely popular on xperiablog for some reason!

  • raxxta

    Well how do we know it’ll be an ‘xperia’.. They’re already down to ‘z’s with the lettering.

  • Prateek Bhanushali

    Yess the Gamma Problem that makes screen brighter but makes white more yellowish and over-exposed, quite Similar to Xperia Z’s Screen….
    I actually Solved this problem on my Z with “Screen Filter” app and Adjusting it at 20%-25% level :)

  • osin17

    Lol… you’re really funny… belong faster and smaller

  • yasahara

    With new smartphone xperia. .. :D

  • hans

    Well if you don’t have one don’t tell me what’s the right thing according to u. Thanks.

  • hans

    Lol, is that you the one from pornarena? :)

  • shayan gozarabadi

    oops sorry sorry

  • Kate

    What a tragedy, You mean @atWidget cums too fast?

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  • They still have their offices in Lund, Sweden – and do a lot of design and software work there, so that means Sony could still launch the Xperia å, Xperia ä and Xpera ö models. :-)

  • I don’t see the point in any device having a 4K resolution of this size (and by that I mean, 5-7-inch). For a tablet, laptop etc – yes. For an new iMac, yes…

    But having support for 4K video recording and playback, as well as potentially streaming 4K content to your new Sony 4K TV (of which at CES, we’ll see a new 2014 line-up that might be cheaper) is going to be a good thing. Even if you don’t have a 4K TV today, you might be more encouraged to get one if your phone makes full use of it.

    As Netflix and the like gets 4K content, I can see any new Sony phone making a big deal of it.

    Perhaps that’s why the Z1 hasn’t got 4K recording even though the hardware is up to it. They’ll be preparing a way to tie it in nicely with its other products, and 4K is too immature to be a big thing this year.

  • Totally agree, until we get to the point where we’re up to and exceeding 500PPI. That’s insane because you can’t ‘see it’, whereas you could see the higher resolution screens that were replacing the 176×220, 240×320 VGA screens. (That and the fact the hardware couldn’t cope with higher resolution video, or maybe even store it).

  • But you’ll always be waiting.

    The Z is still a good device. The Z1 is top-five and capable for many more months to come (it won’t stop working when the Z2 or whatever comes along).

    I do think Sony needs to slow down on the releases. Do one flagship a year, perhaps with the ‘mini’ version as a variant, a new ‘Ultra’ and a new tablet.. throw in a few low-mid range models and you’ve got a good portfolio.

    Six monthly releases does sadly mean many people will be put off, or will consider it too risky to buy a Sony device after just a few weeks of it going on sale. It’s not good when you can buy a new phone and already be hearing of the leaked specs for the next one.

    It doesn’t happen anywhere near as much with the Samsung GS4, or the HTC One, and doesn’t happen with the iPhone. Yes you get vague rumours and loads of made-up stuff as link bait, but with Sony you’ve always had pretty accurate leaks that can put people off. And Sony clearly isn’t controlling it when you get spy shots that include the stickers warning people of the consequences of leaking information!

  • It seems that S805 is a little more than the very minor change on the Arc vs Arc S from the press release, but is it really that big a change?

    Yes it has the faster GPU, but it implies that it’s the first to manage 4K (it doesn’t claim that, but many people have written news stories that suggest it because they don’t check facts or are clueless) and we know that S800 can do that – as indeed it does on the Note 3.

  • abab

    basically he meant that, his is as tiny package as s805 and speedwise is fast!

  • Kevin

    Didn’t said according to me.
    I said reviewers and people say it.

  • xperiaDROID

    You’re right, and I totally agree with you. As you said, “The Z is still a good device.” and that’s why I’m sticking with my Z because it’s a good device, and Sony will still update it to Android KitKat.

    I asked many people that should I upgrade to the Z1, they said it’s not much of an upgrade from the Z. So I’m gonna wait for next year’s flagship from Sony, or maybe from other manufacturers, but high chances are I will choose Sony, it’s because I love Sony.

    I had a Xperia P, and now the Xperia Z, and once you’re used to their phones and user interface it’s hard to change to another one from other manufacturers. So high chances are I will choose Sony. I’m excited to see what Sony will bring to the table next year.

    Oh and by the way, you should work with Sony. You have a very wonderful idea there, if you work with Sony, you will definitely help Sony make to the top.

  • Kaostheory

    I don’t think 4K will make it. Pixel density is around 70 ppi on 60in. Cellphones are approaching 600 ppi. If you were to use current panel tech for TV that would already be 8X 4K. 4K is already obsolete.

  • I don’t think 4K is obsolete yet! I haven’t even got a 4K TV yet! If you had a 60-inch TV, you would be sitting quite a distance away. It’s all relative.

    While I know Apple did use that as an excuse before it had a Retina display on the iPad, it did have a valid point. It’s also why you can still look at a Tablet Z and think the screen is amazing, even though the PPI is way down on the Z/Z1.

    Let’s not even get started on 8K. At this rate, in a couple of years, someone will be putting 8K resolutions on a 5-inch screen just because they can!

    I have no idea when 8K TVs will become a reality. Not because they can’t be made already (they could) but because of the many issues of producing 8K content and transmitting/broadcasting/streaming it.

  • Makiz

    I think that all we need to stop “trolling around” is an Xperia with this processor, 3Gigs of RAM, IPS or Amoled display, Gorilla glass WITHOUT shatterproof sheet and the awesome Z1 camera! ARE YOU LISTENING SONY? :P

  • Kaostheory

    All depends on what the networks adopt. Densities are increasing faster than when 1080 came out. If they are already able to produce 32K what will it be at when the networks start retooling their bbroadcasts. I see TV getting more competitive, whereas in the past we took what they gave us but now being the sport channel with the highest def might have an edge.

  • Maybe some producers will capture content at higher resolutions than they’ll transmit for a while (rather like many US firms switching to HD for TV series long before HD was really a big thing). I don’t think most consumers will be buying anything more than 4K for a while.

    The industry wouldn’t have any reason to either. Sell 4K for 3-4 years, then introduce 8K (when 4K has matured and prices have fallen).

    When I replace my 42-inch TV in the living room, it will almost certainly be a 4K set.. but I can’t really go beyond 55-inches (60 at a real push) so 8K would’t really benefit me much unless I don’t just get a bigger TV but a bigger room!

  • alex

    This chip set in the next Xperia(Z2?) With a 5″ Triluminos IPS betzelless display, an updated version of the Z1’s Camera and everything in an aluminium waterproof body. Perfect phone!

  • I Am The End of Eternity

    + audio chip

  • Brad Williams

    Once again, we are going to see Sony be the late comer. Samsung will have this in their next Galaxy before Sony can release. Sony will release in Feb as they always do and then not until later in the year. :(

  • Dion

    Phones doesn’t need better CPU at this moment.. my god “old” Snapdragon 800 is more than enough.. Better create better battery or do something with power consumption from screen/cpu etc..

    Really..

  • raxxta

    Not sure what Käzuö Hiråi would say about that!

  • raxxta

    “too gay” you mean

  • andy roid

    And what resolution is 420p?

  • andy roid

    Yeah too much bezel on some xperia! Xperia M is same length as my xperia T despite my xperia being 0.55 inch bigger screen! One plus side to that huge area at the top and bottom is that they are great for accelerometer racing games!

  • andy roid

    And the Z1 beats that in benchmarks! Better luck next time mediacrap!

  • andy roid

    The Arc and Arc S were identical! Just the Arc S was overclocked to 1.4ghz! Just root a live walkman, overclock it to 1.4ghz and watch it thrash the arc S as it has a lower res screen meaning less drain on processor meaning better all round performance!

  • HardyHarHar

    For the 1st time in the history this upgrade doesn’t entice me at all :) a .2ghz increase is not enough, 4K mobiles display is not necessary/worthless, memory is too fast already to notice the increase from 12ghz/sec to 25ghz/sec and an integrated camera sensor isn’t necessary(as I’m pretty sure it’s subpar compared to those made by sony, ST Microelectronics etc.) and nothing much added :( I would have loved it if they focused on the 64 bit upgrade or power efficiency and maybe additional sensors would be cool :)

  • HardyHarHar

    Sorry bro :) Samsung got exynos on their hands to use this one.

  • HardyHarHar

    I want Xperia ? :D

  • HardyHarHar

    lol! 2 minutes of 4k video is roughly 1GB in size… Good luck with 8k or 32k or some sort :p

  • HardyHarHar

    560 x 420 pixels

  • HardyHarHar

    +1 coming from a current HTC One(with infrared camera) owner

  • Brad Williams

    Yes they have failed dismally trying this before. :D

  • Amir

    the successor to the Z1 will be released with snapdragon 805 obviously so sony won’t be late for this cpu.

  • xperiafan324

    I hope I’m not the only one seeing all the pieces falling in the right place for an early 2014 12″ 4K Xperia Tablet. ^_^

  • You are right (in that the original Arc and other Snapdragon devices of that year) were easily overclocked – and to speeds in excess of 1.4GHz, but the Arc S did have a different version number of the chipset that was fully rated to work at 1.4GHz. I’d say that hardly anyone would have had problems overclocking their Arc, but it wasn’t guaranteed as the newer one was.

    But, yes, looking more at S805, there are quite a few more changes… but I am now wondering if Sony might use S805 to do a more simplistic update and have it more like an Xperia ‘Z1 S’, as a repeat of the Arc/Arc S?

    Now, I realise that if they’ve got the Z1s (smaller Z1) then that model name would’t work, but could Sony decide to do this to have something for CES/MWC and have the real brand new killer flagship released next year at IFA (September)?

  • Moca

    h265 man ! It’s very important !

  • h2o

    You’re absolutely right, but like we knew, wanting is never enough.

  • Luis

    THIS! I still scratch my head with their 2 flagship per year strategy. Its such nonsense. Their big problem is that they release a lot of phones and try to publizice and focus on them all. Samsung may be realeasing a lot of phones too but clearly focuses its attention to its main phones ( galaxy s and note).

  • Samsung seems to have done well with splitting half of the year into releasing and promoting the Galaxy Snn and Note nn. Instead, Sony is doing half the year with a flagship, and the second half with the follow up. It was particularly odd that Sony released the Z Ultra just before the Z1, as it very quickly disappeared from advertising as Sony switched to the Z1.

    Samsun’s way of doing things means it has a whole year for each model, but still has two major launches per year and more minor phones and tablets slotted in between.

  • Luis

    Exactly. I own an Xperia Tx ( its been almost a year since i bought it) and its sad that in just one year it has been replaced by two flagships already.

  • Evita

    S800 do 4K based on software but S805 will do based on hardware level, different story!

  • josesl16

    For me, that extra bit processing power for my oh-so-wonderful 10-bit videos is always gonna be worth it :v

  • Paul

    Announcement wise.. he could be right.
    You know how it goes with Sony. They announce (or infos get leaked of) a new phone, and then you’re waiting up to a half year for them to finally release it.

  • Teja

    Snapdragon S4 pro was enough.

    Pigs never fly no matter what happens.

    Development of some useless shit. LOL

  • Camilo Uribe

    Meanwhile i’m still with honami, I hope change it in one year !

  • xperiafan324

    64 bit is utterly useless in phones and tablets, because RAM itself is quite battery consuming (That’s why Stamina mode makes SUCH a huge difference too, less RAM usage when idle). There is no way IN HELL that any single ever-so-slightly optimized mobile app would need to address more than 4 GB of RAM not at least for another 6-8 years.
    Power efficiency is also being improved here with the S805, that’s why they can give 40% boost to GPU performance all the while consuming the same power or less as a S800 (which in turn consumes for the most part, the same power as an S4 Pro).

    Qualcomm has already fitted every generally used sensor under the sun into their SoC, they’ve got NFC, Gyros, Accelerometers, Magnetometers, GPS + GLONASS etc. You know that M7 “coprocessor” that Apple made a fuss about? Qualcomm had that since S800, it’s called a sensor hub.
    What I’m trying to say is that we’ve reached the “peak” of the 1080p h264 era. Why I’m excited with the S805, is because for the first time 4k tablets are becoming more than just a plausibility, with h265 hardware decoding on-board playing 4k videos will use up no more resources than what GPU accelerated 1080p playback uses. It is huge because these codec upgrades only come like every 6-7 years.
    It is the first SoC to usher in that new era. Don’t believe me? Let’s just wait for the 2014 Xperia Tablet (fingers crossed).

  • xperiafan324

    I’d prefer it Sony jumped to Carbon Fiber for next year, will do wonders for the weight and durabilty will also go through the roof.

  • xperiafan324

    That’s why I really like what Sony’s doing with the flagship + Mini combo, smaller screen + lower resolution for those who want a more pocketable and at the same time more powerful experience, Z1 s/f I think should be more powerful than what the A7 is capable of in the iphone 5s when it comes to graphically demanding tasks.

    I personally still prefer 5 ” phones though, so I’m glad that Sony doesn’t make one-size-fits-all policies.

  • sony

    Z1 bezel isnt too much so stop talking about it…sony isnt a fashion designer..this is a water proof phone

  • sony

    SONY Make.believe

  • sony

    The best of SONY,fot the best of you

  • Brad Williams

    That may well be wishful thinking. :)

  • Amir

    are you sane my friend? “wishful thinking”? wishful thinking is expecting 64 bit processor which no company will have aside of samsung cause 64 bit from qualcomm will be ready only for 2H 2014 devices. the Z1 SOCCESSOR WILL HAVE FOR SURE snapdragon 805. t’s called natural evolution, not wishful thinking. if i knew you personally i’d bet on a lot of money with you if we could and i would win. :-)

  • Brad Williams

    You have said nothing that in anyway shows me it is not wishful thinking. They may well do it but they are running out of time to have it ready.

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