Confirmed: Xperia Z2 runs the Snapdragon 801 MSM8974-AB chipset

by XB on 27/02/2014

in Xperia Z2


snapdragon-801-soc-imageThere has been a lot of confusion since the Xperia Z2 was announced earlier this week at MWC, around what chipset the handset was running. The Xperia Z2 white paper suggested that it had the Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8974-AB chipset, which up until now has been classified as a Snapdragon 800 part.

However, on Monday, Qualcomm announced a new Snapdragon 801 category with a corresponding MSM8974-AC chipset, which had a slightly higher max clock speed (2.5GHz quad-core versus 2.36GHz quad-core in the AB variant). The GPU for the AC part is also clocked higher at 578MHz against 550MHz for the AB part.

With both Sony and Qualcomm tagging the Xperia Z2 as running with Snapdragon 801, many were left wondering whether the Z2 had the AB or AC chipset. Could there be a typo in Sony’s white papers and product pages? Well, we have been in touch with Sony and they have confirmed to us that the Xperia Z2 indeed runs the MSM8974-AB chipset.

We understand that Qualcomm will shortly reflect that the Snapdragon 801 includes both the 8974-AB and 8974-AC chipsets. This was a point recently confirmed by Qualcomm’s Digital Marketing Manager, Jason Woodmansee, who said that “8974AB is a specific part number for Snapdragon 801”.

On the Snapdragon 801 product page, it says that the “Snapdragon 801 processor includes the following part number: 8974 v3”. However, if you look at sources codes, both the 8974AB and 8974AC are called 8974Pro. Normally the Snapdragon 800 chipsets are referred to as 8974v2. So it could simply be the case that Snapdragon 801 now represents this 8974Pro series, which it is reclassifying as 8974v3. Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion from earlier this week.

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  • osamaH Al-Amri

    Whatever.. Gettin it even if it runs with a wooden processor :)

  • Fabianto Virgilio

    AWESOME !

  • Vignesh Raja

    Well I was also the one among confused. Now the question is Z2 has 3200mAh battery or 3000mAh battery. Because Sony Mobile India states that Z2 has 3000mAh battery….

  • Mac

    Wow talking about confusing..
    But aight, I think I got it now. But why not go with 1 standard classifying so ppl know which one is the right one. And not mixing ac, v3 and pro as the same version. Stick with one of them then problem solved. Jeez

  • nlf

    3200mAh confirmed

  • Abhijit Biswas

    I am pretty sure that Snapdragon801 clocked at 2.36ghz is 2.4ghz as earlier the snapdragon800 2.26ghz was 2.3ghz …… So that further reduces the gap in processing power of z2 n s5… z2 just keeps getting better!

  • xperiafan324

    Honestly it doesn’t matter. Gsmarena ran a while bunch of benchmarks on both the s5 and the z2 and while overall the s5 was higher. In specifically some gaming 3d benchmarks sony’s z2 was ahead. Plus it’s got dualshock 3 support to go with the awesome Playstation Now service (once that eventually rolls out)

  • Gitarooman

    after so many benchmark cheat with Samsung, I won’t trust any benchmark test result.

  • Abhimanyu

    I never get why the fuck all these OEMs confuse the consumers with weird naming schemes.

    Snapdragon 800 – Adreno 330, Snapdragon 610 – Adreno 405, Snapdragon 801 – Adreno 330, Snapdragon 805 – Adreno 420. A normal consumer would get hell confused in knowing which of those is the most powerful.

    Same thing goes to NVIDIA and Intel. Their naming schemes of their GPUs and CPUs respectively are weird as fuck.

  • jonyah

    So when do we find out who is going to offer this phone? That’s all that matters now. My contract is up in 2 days and I’m ready to switch to whoever carries this in the US. Please don’t make me wait.

  • Guest

    Wait, is it 2.3 ghz or 2.5 ghz? Just asking, I love the phone anyway and it’ll obviously still be faster than samsung with touch wiz shiz

  • JMonkeYJ

    According to AnandTech, it’s still 2.26 GHz. Not a big deal, tho :)
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7783/qualcomms-snapdragon-801-msm8974ac-the-new-32bit-flagship-until-805

  • Chetan Reddy

    surprisingly …phonearena’s benchmarks were opposite

  • JMonkeYJ
  • JMonkeYJ

    I assume we will have to import the Z2 in the US. I would love Sony to prove me wrong, tho.

  • dara08ac

    Besides the screen, isn’t the Z1 a better buy then Z2, when You consider the price (even bought refurbished)??

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    And Z1 processor was advertized as 2.2GHz and in fact it was a lie as it is 2.15GHz max…

  • Michael Panggabean

    The chip is able to be clocked at 2.5 Ghz, but Sony usually underclocked its phone so it won’t overheat.

  • Vignesh Raja

    This is what confuses me.

  • Guest

    That’s what I thought

  • lucas

    it seems like z2 will have 2 version which is one with 3200mAh and the other 3000mAh as well ip55 and ip58 respectively

  • AsakuraZero

    same happened with the nexus 7 chipset, it was a “s4″ but it really was a Snap600

  • AsakuraZero

    technically it could even be a 3300MAH battery because of the deviation on the manufacturing, my Z1 battery marks 3100Mah, although the cellphone antennas in my country kills my battery pretty fast sometimes

  • Filipp

    What the heck? Xiaomi mi3 has AB but it is on 800, and z2 has AB but still is on 801?
    Quallcomm’s marketing is strong, yea. We had the S800 in the end of the summer 2013, we will have S800(overclocked) until the second half of 2014.. sad.. Hope Mediatek and othere chineses will make the situation better

  • Filipp

    there is no hardware difference between s4 pro (8064) and s600 (8064T)
    really/not really doesnt matter

  • noob

    Was hoping someone here could answer my question..

    With reference to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29

    The Snapdragon 801 runs on the same 28nm Semiconductor Technology but at a higher clock speed. So technical while the 801 may be more powerful, it would also be more power consuming and runs hotter. Am i right to say that?

  • stitch

    noise cancellation, front facing stereo speaker, smaller bezel, lighter body, better frame(the color) 4k+120fps slow-mo video.
    you decide whether or not the money justify the buy

  • laci_csk

    You wrong, its 2,26 GHz.

  • mk1089

    Exactly its to confuse the helluva normal consumer. Easier for sales person to blabber all the way since consumers have no knowledge to back themselves up

  • Abhijit Biswas

    Well the 4k + slow motion will come to z1, infact all those camera features will come to z1! For the hardware, z2 is much better!

  • Abhijit Biswas

    Yes coz anandtech knows more about this than qualcomm does right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29

    I m linking wikipedia for easier understanding, snapdragon pages are even more confusing! The info is available on their site, go ahead if you can understand it easily!

  • Abhijit Biswas

    Snapdragon 800 if clocked hiigher than ususal will cause more heating n battery drain, yes! But since qualcomm’s life mission is to avoid n reduce that, in s801 they managed the overheating and battery drain that will come with higher clock speed!

    Also they changed the actual clock speeds,
    s800 2.3ghz was actually 2.26ghz while
    s801 2.3ghz is actually 2.36 ghz so
    when sony moved from s800 at 2.2ghz(2.15ghz) to s801 at 2.3ghz(2.36ghz) that is actually a 0.2ghz change as compared to what ppl will think…

    Samsung moved from 2.3ghz(2.26ghz) in note3 to 2.5ghz(2.45ghz) on s5 so the change is also 0.2ghz, same difference on both the phones!

    You might be terribly confused, I too used to be once upon a time….

  • JMonkeYJ

    They don’t know more than QUALCOMM, but they DEFINITELY know more than Wikipedia ;-) Note the Wikipedia source for that information is not QUALCOMM and it says “up to.” Still could be 2.36, but I’m inclined to believe AnandTech.

  • Apoorv Deshmukh

    Not confusing if you understand the nomenclature. First number means the generation and the other two digit can signify the performance. Therefore Adreno 405 may have a newer architecture design but may lack in speed if compared to Adreno 330 which has older architecture design but high speed performance. I know this because that’s how they decide graphic card model numbers. :)

  • Nick

    The Sony Xperia Z2 is better then the Galaxy S5. Same processor, but Sony has more RAM, stereo, better water resistance, and its Sony :D

  • Tadija Djurovic

    XPERIA Z2 IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE 2014!!!

    XPERIA Z2 DESTROY SAMSUNG GALAXY S5

    1) BATTERY
    Z2 3200mAh
    S5 2800mAh

    2) RAM MEMORY

    Z2 3GB
    S5 2GB

    3) SCREEN SIZE

    Z2- 5.2″
    S5- 5.1″

    4 WATTERPTOOF
    Z2 BETTER IP RATING THAN S5 (IP58 VS IP67)

    5) DESIGN AND BUILD QUALITY
    Z2 MUCH BETTER ( ALUMINIUM AND GLASS )
    S5 ONLY PLASTIC ( FANTASTIC) ;)

    6) SPEAKERS
    Z2 – FEATURES DUAL FRONT STEREO SPEAKERS
    S5 ONLY ONE MONO SPEAKER

  • dara08ac

    Yeah I agree.. The Z2 is better, but a refurbished Z1 for 330 GBP vs 599 GBP for Z2 is very attractive.. :)

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    No, it’s 2.15 only for Z1, check in cpu-Z or cpu spy applications, is says the highest value is 2.15… The same in benchmarks :( :( :( I will provide you with screenshots.

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    Here you are, Sony is cheating us when it comes to.clock speeds, any other programs confirm it, its from 300MHz to 2150MHz…

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    And so on..

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    You see?

  • Sumo

    Not to burst your bubble my Sony brother, but Z2 is not the best smartphone of 2014, because they have already confirmed that Z2 is only for the first half of 2014. That means we will also be getting another ‘best’ smartphone from Sony in 2014. So that MAKES TWO BEST SMARTPHONES IN 2014 BY SONY! Let me hear it everybody!!!

  • Tadija Djurovic

    You’re right brother, I forgot Z3
    Xperia Xperia Z2 and xperia Z3 are the two best mobile phones in 2014!!!!

  • laci_csk
  • SomeBody

    Uhh, what? Nvidia has the best naming scheme.
    low-end: x50
    mid-range: x60
    (bang-for-the-buck) high-end: x70
    ultimite power: x80
    Dual GPU: x90

  • AsakuraZero

    the 8064t on the is kinda different it uses DDR3 LP 1600mhz vs the 533 on the S4 pro, the difference is huge, the only difference is the marketing of it, qualcomm love to confuse people

    and the krait core on s600 is V2 (muchlike the the S800 now goes on the v3)

  • Marcin Podsiadły

    Yes it says “up to” 2.26GHz, but Sony down clocked it to 2.15 only… :/

  • josesl16

    Not with GeForce, atleast.

  • xperiaz6603swe

    but better water resistance no . unfortunately sony has ip57/ip58 , s5 has so much as ip67 its much better and no flip covers but i like the new z2 but it comes soon new phone htc etc

  • Pechorin

    you dont know what those numbers mean, do you?

  • Killian Khoo

    Dude ~
    1st IP number is represent to dust resistance ~ While S5 is categorized as Dustproof ~
    And 2nd IP number is represent to water resistance ~ S5 got 7 for that ~
    Which is represent it cant submerged into water for long ~
    While Z2 number 8 can ~
    As long as it is not deeper than 1m 30cm ~

  • xperiaz6603swe

    Whats ur problem mate ,

    if u are coocky , så tell me then, i was kind ur not

  • xperiaz6603swe

    yes i know this already . i have answer that , thanx anyway , and please dont call me Dude !

  • as simple as that

    The Z2 is IPX8 water resistant so it is better on that than the S5, however the S5 is better at being dust proof. If we are taking into consideration waterproof-ness then the Z2 wins if we are taking into account dust-proof-ness then the S5 wins. as simple as that.

  • lol

    Tell me when your avg consumer will do that? like going to the store and “Ow see this is X generation and based on the last numbers it will hit these performance targets”… never…

  • Lukas

    Mediatek is not giving out sources… Hate them

  • cesar suarez

    Z3 Z3 Z3 en Septiembre :P

  • Shanker

    I don’t watch porn while showering in dust so I guess I’ll get the Z2.

  • xperiaZL

    I hope they’ll do one like the Xperia ZL. I don’t really want the water proofing as I think it gets in the way of the speakers’ performance, I also don’t like the flaps as they are more prone to wear and tear. Please Sony, make another one like the ZL.

  • ewr

    They should call it the ZIII instead of Z3; Z3 sounds like a cheap chinese mobile phone.

  • Stanley08

    Actually!!! S5 has 8974AC which is faster than 8974AB in the Z2. And KitKat only needs 512MB RAM. ;)

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