Xperia S used to create stunning book of photos on Costa Rican natural history and landscapes

by XB on 15/08/2014

in Featured Content, Imaging, Xperia S


Xperia BookWe often hear a lot of negativity around the camera performance of Sony Xperia handsets. This post is here to counter that argument, as well as reminisce about an older Xperia device.

Julián Monge-Nájera is a Costa Rican ecologist and author of 20 books published by several Costa Rican universities and Oxford University. He has also acted as a scientific adviser for the BBC and the National Geographic Society. Multi-talented Monge is also a professional photographer and he recently got in touch about a new book he has published.

Monge used an Xperia S running Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean for two months, to produce a book of natural history and landscape photography in his native Costa Rica. He got in touch about this personal project to show everyone how the “excellent camera in the Xperia can lead to professional results.”

The free book is available to download from iTunes or from the PDF link below. If you have any interest in camera photography we recommend that you download the book to see what can be achieved. It is worth noting that these aren’t untouched pictures. Monge used software to sharpen the images as well for cropping, light and colour correction. However, it shows the potential of what can be achieved.

We will leave you with a small extract from the book:

In the case of cell phone cameras, they now have large sensors (12 megapixels in my Xperia) but normally poor optics. Nevertheless, you can still take excellent photographs with a phone and obtain better results than I did when I had my Yashica with the best Fuji, Ilford or Kodak 35 mm film. I think this book is proof of my argument. The deeply colored and textured flower close-ups that I include here seem to me better than the close-ups that my professional camera renders with its zoom lens.

DOWNLOAD (iTunes): Flower, people and landscape photography with an Xperia cellphone
DOWNLOAD (PDF): Flower, people and landscape photography with an Xperia cellphone

Please Note: You can view the book below, but please give it time to load as it is a 100-page PDF.

Disclaimer: The majority of the photos from the book are taken from the Xperia S, but a handful were taken from an older Nokia phone.

  • Jesús López Sotelo

    The Xperia S had a great camera and overall performance. This is a picture a took with it before the last update, I even won a blu-ray set with it!

    I just want it to share with all of you.

  • Arup

    SONY has always given natural photos which most who are used to fake NOKIA and SAMSUNG colors are not used to. Notwithstanding the fact that majority of the top end camera manufacturers use SONY sensors be it NIKON or CANON.

  • jag

    Great shot you got there! ^^

  • Utsav Shah

    Xperia S/Ion has one of the best camera found on Xperia devices. If anyone has doubt, checkout my instagram or Flickr @utsav911.

  • Chris

    Great shot, my friend! I have a Xperia S for a year and now having a Z1. I’m sure you can produce even better picture with Z1!

  • Reza

    Old is gold…

  • Jaywalker

    Yes. No one can argue with that. This is one of the best photos I’ve seen from a Sony and I’m one of the unhappy customers regarding their cameras.

  • Faisal Armand

    The problem is.. People is always focusing on the bad things of Xperia cameras, choose to forget the good things and expect DSLR quality from 1/3″ or 1/2.3″ sensor, and I think it is not surprising considering SONY is a world famous camera maker and has amazing reputation.

    Take Xperia Z2 for example. I own it and compared its camera against Lumia 1020, Galaxy S5, LG G3, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 3, and iphone 5s. And Xperia Z2 won against all (rather easily) but lumia 1020, it isn’t surprising considering Z2’s sensor size is only half the size of lumia 1020’s

    But look at people’s reaction. “AAAAH, Z2’S CAMERA SOFTWARE IS SH*T! PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION!”. I tell you, even if sony totally revamped its camera algorithm and make a laid back style processing, you guys would still complain, I guarantee it.

    Evidence? 20MP lumia 1520 with a laid back processing is unable to beat Galaxy Note 3’s oversharpened and unnatural 13MP images in terms of detail. And people actually praised lumia 1520’s camera and bashed Xperia cameras, damn! -___-”

    And some of the people actually expect Xperia Z1 and Z2 to make equal image quality to lumia 1020. Oh come on, people.. Z1 & Z2’s sensor size is only HALF the size of lumia 1020’s… How are you going to make an image quality on par with a camera sensor TWICE the size of your own? Oversharpening? Strong noise reduction? Hell no!

  • Kunal Shukla

    frankly speaking I would be more than happy if my Xperia Z use the same software that of the Xperia S or even Xperia P which to me is one the best 8mp out there…. I don’t understand what sony tried to achieve with the Z camera and render it useless…. It’s so bad that I ask my friends to take pictures and then transfer them to my phone with bluetooth :(

  • Faisal Armand

    I believe Xperia S has a good camera. It is able to beat nokia n8 in daylight conditions

  • Syed ameen

    Mate i totally agree with you !! Z2’s camera leaves all of them behind. And yea about the sensors.. I bet most of them wont understand the point and take it into account. They would just blabber about the software even if Sony improves their software..

    But yea, the only thing im unhappy about Xperia is their flash. If they had used a Xenon flash like in Sony K800i (not the hump :P somehow make it slim) then it would be really awesome

  • Saifuddin Adnan

    i used to be a proud owner of xperia s untill i lost it in the market!…now i use sony xperia z1…..but frankly there was no phone which can compete with my xperia s during its time….galaxy s3 could render better details but i did’nt like the oversaturated,unnatural colours produced by it….it even made the skin tones of people very much dark!….xperia S’s camera was the best of its time…..and then came the crap cameras like xperia Z,SP,etc…..but they were tackled by my xperia Z1 which has a great camera!!

  • Abdul Ghani

    when xperia s was on gingerbread and ice cream sandwich it use to produce good quality pictures but after jelly bean sony lost their touch in camera software and z1 cannot produce such good picture

  • Abdul Ghani

    when xperia s was on gingerbread and ice cream sandwich it use to produce good quality pictures but after jelly bean sony lost their touch in camera software see when xperia z launched sony made adds about how good the camera is we all believed and bought z but it turns out sony ruined the camera software then they continued to z1 to z2 now soon z3 will join the horrible software people who bought z z1 z2 may live in denial that the camera software is poor not agree that sony ruined the camera

    see one plus one xperia blog test vs z2 the xperia z2 just eithher came close or lost vs the 13 mp camera now one plus one released new software update called clear image and they are not lying like sony https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/introducing-clear-image.83393/

    u can download the full size too and see the results how good the images are after the update beats any sony phone till now

    sony lost with any camera comparison and yet not fixing the horrible post processing and compression problem

    http://www.change.org/petitions/sony-mobile-fix-the-camera-software-sony

  • azhy

    My dear old xperia handsets camera were very good but the new versions is not good for example I have had xperia ray 8mp and now I have xperia z 13mp (1/3). Believe it or not except at night all the time my friends said the xperia ray was better and when I scan the images for pdf its better too. The problem is not with the software, as a photographer its the larg sensor but small lense, it should have more length like using hump on nokia and also leaving some pexil like the orignal is 20 but it should in action use only 17 of it to focus in proper way. But sony for focusing and still images don’t do that, they use only higher iso to produce the image and results in grained dots on the zoomed pic, so sony is not using this way because of the design to be slim, an other disadvantage with this is the edges of pic are not good as the center because there is not enough length and appreciate lense size to let more light in there. Sony should make their sensor smaller but making a better quality, people will think large sensor is the only way pic gets better but infact it may make your pic worse if you don’t make it scientifically approved.

  • Faisal Armand

    In denial? LOL, whatever dude, just keep talking about your petition and your self made arguments

    Oh as for the one plus one vs xperia Z2. I remember the lens of Z2 was dirty and the one thing that opo has is oversaturated colours and not so great indoor photos

    As for K zoom vs Z2. Both are using the same sensor and the same resolution. And it turns out that Z2’s photo is more detailed. What makes things funnier is people say “Samsung optimises sony even better than sony itself” LOL, LMFAO

  • azhy

    Its not true. Look at camera samples in gsmarena camera tool you can see z2 pic washed-out.

  • Abdul Ghani

    yeah xperia blog made it dirty and you were there hahaahahahah to clean

  • Makiz

    The best camera phone I’ve owned! XS FTW!

  • Deki

    I had Xperia S before Z1 it was really awesome. Really great camera and performance. I have many great photos with that phone and one vacation album. Really awesome phone, better than T in any way…

  • Faisal Armand

    Quite suspiciously yes. Most of sony phones are washed out in gsmarena compare tools. Except for Xperia T2 Ultra which has on par performance with Galaxy Note 3

    However, it is a totally different story here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/2

    You will see that even Xperia Z1 does better than galaxy S5 in terms of detail preservation and low light performance.

    Then there is a russian site (I forgot its name -___-“) Xperia Z2 is as good as galaxy s5 in daylight conditions. And on par with lumia 1520 in low light

  • grav1ty

    as i always said.. Xperia S still has a better camera than Z/Z1/Z2. I never was able to prodce better pictures on my Z.
    But this doesn’t mean that it is a good Smartphone.. I wish i never bought it, now it’s getting rusted in a corner with that yellow tint display and very laggy UI.

  • Faisal Armand

    Unfortunately you don’t understand the effect of dirty lens on image quality, it makes pictures blown out when there is light source

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    A picture of a flower can win you a blu-ray set?
    Hmm, maybe I should join photo contests…

  • Abdul Ghani

    i still dont understand were u with xperia blog to check the camera lens weather it was dirty or not i know u have z2 and u will deny anything even after showing the proof that its software is poor

  • Sander Puus

    As a proud Xperia S owner I can tell you that in its own time (make that 2012-2013) the phone had one of the best snappers out there available at that time. Now as theres the z series currently topping with Z2 (which I also happily own) I can tell and back my words up with series of tests that this is the 2014-… best snapper available on the market right now.

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    Your comment is extremely difficult to read.
    Also, focusing is unrelated to ISO settings.

    That and, in general, larger sensors do improve picture quality but it requires improved camera algorithms to improve the performance even further (don’t confuse “large sensor” with “high megapixel count”, it’s something completely different).

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    I had the Nokia N8 before the Xperia S (now switched to a Z1) and I can tell you this: The Xperia S does not beat the Nokia N8.

    The Xperia S comes in just better than the Sony Ericsson Satio (which I had before the N8), but there’s still way too much chromatic noise and oversharpening. If you zoom in on 12mp photos of both the Xperia S and Nokia N8 on a Full HD monitor, you’ll see that only with the Nokia N8 photos you can see more details after zooming in. The Xperia S shots don’t quite give more details to an image than you can already see zoomed out.

    If I compare those with my current Xperia Z1, well, I’m not sure. The Nokia N8 is an amazing cameraphone, but I think the Z1 just beats it. The best thing about the N8’s camera was the colour temperature and accuracy – the Z1 almost always fails to set a correct white balance on auto settings. When you switch to manual on the Z1 however, lower the ISO as much as possible, then you got yourself a cameraphone that does indeed beat the Nokia N8 in overall quality.

  • azhy

    But the gsmarena will represent when you shot normally like not using stand and…. So in real life as I have xperia z its true but sometimes using stand and light and other apk it can take better pic. However in daily use i cant have stand with me or focusing apk which I take 15 photo and on of them is good. But other phones just shot it.

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    The Xperia Z1 since the update to KitKat definitely makes much better stills than the Xperia S.

    Look at my Z1 pictures on Flickr:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/77537273@N03/sets/72157641512651095/

    No way the Xperia S comes close, mostly because of the much smaller lens aperture. The depth of field is also what I love most about the Z1’s camera. That and, the Z1 gets rid of chromatic noise (only features mono chromatic noise now) where the Xperia S really suffered from it. I was honestly impressed, after the upgrade from my Xperia S to Z1.

  • Faisal Armand

    Dude, do you actually believe that i’m with Xperiablog? LOL.

    Deny anything? You didn’t say anything after I show the proof images about xperia z2’s camera superiority compared to others, do you have to say anything about those? Huh? How am I denying if I have PROOFS?

    So what if the software is poor, then? Even if it is poor, it still did better than the competition except for lumia 1020, of course. And I have the proof in my earlier comments

    Look, Z2’s default dynamic range is better than s5’s. Which further complemented the dirty lens theory. If the Z2’s lens is dirty, the sun would’ve eaten the whole picture.

  • Alex Norris

    Nokia N8 before great 808 Pureview called the BEST camera phone! So PLS, don’t talk nonsense like i believe, and ect… ok!

  • azhy

    Larger sensor need larger focal length, so when you shot at iso 50 it take time to let light in and produce the focus but when you shot at iso 3200 its very fast to capture it and focus if you have studied photography you know that better than me. that large sensor need a hump like lumia 1020 to approve the focal length

  • Faisal Armand

    Check out my Xperia Z2’s long exposure night samples, please :-)

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/125751132@N08/

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    Looks pretty damn good for such a tiny camera in a phone ;)
    I guess the exposure time doesn’t go any lower than 0.6 seconds (according to Flickr)? That’s a shame. The camera would have been so much better with truly long exposures!

  • azhy

    Look at that the blurred image that are even brighter is at iso 50 but the darker is at iso 400 and dont have problem except it has noise because of high iso.

  • Faisal Armand

    It’s 0.8 seconds at the lowest, dude.

    Still, I wish a full manual setting like those of HTC M8 and Nokia Lumias

  • Mohammed Khired

    “To:
    Sony Mobile, sony

    fix the camera software for good performance specially in low light so that sony mobile be (kings)??? again”

    !!!!!

  • Abdul Ghani

    I don’t give a shit about Samsung because u denied in previous old post when I said Xperia arc and s and TX takes better pictures BTW which I literally own than z1 all of a sudden u said it can’t be possible because u have z2 and bla bla awesome bla bla Xperia s is poor so who is denying me or you and the Xperia blog thing is a joke lol u are a mess just living in denial plus u think Xperia blog will let z2 down lol such a noob u can’t accept the fact one plus one easily beats z2 this is Xperia blog they love sony phones

    And also I own lumia 1520 too and that also take better picture than z z1 and z2 so please if u want to believe that z2 takes better pictures with denial do that don’t show old pictures of LG and s5
    Serious fight is against one plus one xiaomi iPhone and any other company uses sony camera in their phone which is inferior hardware and superior software and beats any sony phone in terms of picture quality

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  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    Ah right I’m sorry, I saw 0.6s on the first picture and assumed that was best. I’ve always wanted full control over exposure times, but I suppose we’ll have to wait for Google to release the next big Android version which would supposedly bring native RAW support and hopefully manual exposure as well.

    I’ve read that currently, exposure times are limited by Android itself unless manufacturers explicitly code it into their firmware. I’m kind of disappointed Sony doesn’t have the best feature set in terms of camera software yet. They have a lot of experience with digital cameras. They’re not giving it their best shot – probably because their phones would then compete against their compact cameras already.

  • Faisal Armand

    “Don’t show old pictures against LG and S5″ So that means you accept that Z2 is better than all of them, huh? Lol. What is wrong with the pictures that I share, huh? Because it is contradictory to your arguments?

  • Faisal Armand

    Ah, RAW support.. I guess I can post process images to my liking, then..

    Plus, I’ve also heard that sony INTENTIONALLY doesn’t want to optimize their smartphone camera software because they don’t want their point & shoot camera sales to drop big time.

  • Faisal Armand

    That is one bad habit of sony. In superior auto mode, the ISO is crancked up higher than necessary to avoid blur.

    “When you switch to manual on the Z1 however, lower the ISO as much as possible, then you got yourself a cameraphone that does indeed beat the Nokia N8 in overall quality” That’s one impressive achievement, isn’t it? Given the sensor size of Z1/Z1C/Z2 is much smaller than nokia N8, 1/2.3″ vs 1/1.8″

    You know, I often shot indoor images @ISO 50 with my Z2. The results are pretty damn clean images, hardly any noise and plenty of detail.

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    I always keep my Z1 in Manual Mode at ISO-50. I’ve noticed that only with ISO-50 you actually get use out of the 20 megapixels for details. Any higher ISO and the added megapixels essentially turn into noise instead of added details. At night I’m using “”superior”” auto, because then I care more about details than having a darker but cleaner image.

    I didn’t even know the difference between N8 and Z1 sensor size, which is something I’ve been meaning to look up. Thanks :)
    For some reason though, the N8 images have a certain ambiance to them, they look very accurate to real life I’d say. Colour accuracy is very good with the N8. But the Z1 (and Z2) beats the N8 in sheer detail with manual pictures at ISO-50. Sometimes I still get surprised by the quality (although other times I’m disappointed). The N8 was much better as a point-and-shoot device though, if you didn’t know how to set things manually. The Z1 requires constant manual white balance adjustments as well.

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    I just realised, that may just be why Nokia seems to be king in the camera department with the 808 PureView and Lumia 1020. After all Nokia doesn’t have digital cameras for sale that may suffer from good cameraphones. Sony, as well as Samsung, does.

    In the case of Samsung, that’s probably also why their S4 Zoom and K Zoom devices always disappoint in some way. They’re far from perfect, they only appeal to people not very knowledgeable in photography who want their phones to be a little more capable as cameras. The K Zoom photo quality really only looks like an “OK flagship” camera, which just happens to have optical zoom.

  • Faisal Armand

    See? Makes sense isn’t it? I think sony could have easily programmed camera algorithm that is superior to even nokia pureview devices. But I think they opt not to do it, intentionally.

    As for DSLR, or any camera qualities.. Samsung is waaay behind Sony. At dxomark.com , samsung cameras quality score averaged at 65-70. While Sony averaged at >80, and their full frame cameras can reach 95, damn..

    Both S4 Zoom and K Zoom aren’t even as good as Xperia Z1 and Z2. Check it out: http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/08/02/samsung-galaxy-k-zoom-vs-sony-xperia-z2

  • Abdul Ghani

    Didn’t u saw one plus one clear image software update they use sony 13 mp lens and they beat Z1 easily because of good software just Google it one plus one clear image ull see why I am saying sony needs to make a good camera software and remove that horrible post processing

  • Faisal Armand

    I dunno about Z1 but in Z2, 8MP shots have more detail, and less noise & artifacts than 20.7MP ones, I never shoot in 20.7MP mode because of that reason.

    One tip for ya, mate. If you’re shooting outdoors, you better choose landscape mode in manual settings as it has sharper images, and punchier colours compared to programmed manual mode (ya know, with ISO, WB, and EV tweaked)

    In indoors, I go full manual. Shooting at ISO 50,100, and 200 at maximum.. Yep WB is a bit inconsistent. Choosing superior auto will usually set the ISO at 1000, and 1250 -__-”

    Fyi about nokia n8 and z1/c/z2 sensor size and resolution, and pixel size:
    – Nokia N8: 1/1.8″ 12MP 1.75um
    – Sony Xperia Z1/Z1C/Z2: 1/2.3″ 20.7MP 1.12um

    And one the benefits of large sensor and big pixel size are:
    – Greater dynamic range
    – Less noise
    – Less processing to make great image quality
    – Great low light performance even at ridiculously high ISO
    – Colour depth

    Stuffing many megapixels in a smaller sensor will do more harm than good as it will make pixel size smaller and Nokia n8 has a combination of large sensor and big size pixels. And for Xperia Z1 to match its quality is a good achievement. But the problem is, I can’t stand people complaining too much -_-

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    I had seen that link from Pocketnow already. In fact, my comment is the highest rated there, saying how I’d pick the Z2 much rather than the K Zoom :P

    The K Zoom is a disappointment in almost every way. I mean, it not even features an LED notification light… (and why would Samsung omit the multi window feature on that device? It makes no sense at all)

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    If only I could set manual scene modes at 20 megapixels…
    For some reason yet unknown to me Sony doesn’t allow this. And I’m a ‘pixel junkie’ so I always want as much details in my photos as possible. Either I go Manual at ISO-50 and 20 megapixels, or I’m going “superior” auto at 8 megapixels when ISO-50 doesn’t cut it.

    Hmm, you may be right though. I should give 8 megapixel manual mode a shot (no pun intended). I could at least play with the settings some more, then. One thing that is worth complaining about however, is the fact that the ISO setting is buried in the ‘more settings’ menu, somewhere below. It’s not quickly accessible, and I hate it. That’s why I barely change ISO (or I’d forget to set it back to 50).

  • Faisal Armand

    LOL, nice one dude..

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    Hmm I hadn’t seen that yet. I figured the Oneplus One would just be a regular shooter. But now that I look at the Oneplus One forums, the ‘clear images’ remind me of the Nokia N8. That same ambiance, the clarity…
    I’m intrigued.

    On second look, the picture with the clock-
    https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/introducing-clear-image.83393/

    – that full size picture via the link below there shows a LOT of chromatic aberration. A lot of blue light bleeding, so to say.

    Finally a manufacturer gets the software right, but now the hardware is bad… (as chromatic aberration is caused by poor quality lenses)

  • Abdul Ghani

    dont blame the hardware it’s inferior to z1 and does better job than z1 those pics u saw were 100% crops not normal u can also download full size images and see auto vs clear

    heres where sony lack in their software we will see too much noise and grain when we do 100% crop

  • roeshak

    Sorry, I can produce a much better picture than that with the z2. I have s,z,and z2 and the z2 is overall the best performing of all three.

  • roeshak

    Great shots indeed. Just shows what you can achieve if you keep your finger on the white balance pulse. No washed out colours in sight. Initially I stuck with the 8mp setting but the more I experiment with the 20.7mp mode, the more I prefer shooting with it. The pictures look a bit more natural as those in superior auto and at 8mp can look unnaturally sharp. A side effect of the oversampling employed. It also resolves more detail.
    The lack of OIS means you really have to take a firm grip while shooting otherwise you get blurry photos. For quick point and shooting though, 8mp mode is best.
    You’re right, the S cannot match this level of performance and it’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Abdul Ghani, I am looking at you. I really don’t think he has a Sony phone with the 20.7mp camera. He just visits gsmarena and then bombards us with his problem with phones he doesn’t even own.

  • roeshak

    Do you actually own either a z1 or z2?

  • josesl16

    Given how much problems users had regarding the camera in Xperia S this seems to be nothing short of a miracle, wow.

  • Faisal Armand

    AHA! I found camera comparison between Nokia N8 vs 808 vs Lumia 1020 vs Xperia Z1. You might as well take a look

    http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/18845_Smartphone_camera_shootout_the.php

    But there is one image that makes me confused, look at the signage image. The Z1 clearly has the most detail compared to nokias but the reviewer gives Z1 the lowest point :-S what do you think?

    Keep in mind the Z1 is still in 4.2.2 jelly bean

  • http://hugehog.blogspot.com/ Herman

    Just as I thought, it scores just higher than the Nokia N8. Which surprises me in the comparison, because the Z1 test images were full of noise. Then again, the Z1 does capture more details.

    Fun fact: I’m hoping to soon get my hands on a Sony Ericsson Satio again (because last time I had it, three or four years ago I threw it in the water), to do some comparing with that device to see how far Sony has come :)
    As I recall, that phone captured much more noise than the Xperia S even at a high ISO. Chromatic noise, the worst kind.

    As for the sign image in the comparison: I understand why the Z1 would be given the least amount of points. The oversharpening makes the image almost look blurry compared to the others. Then again, the 1020 image disappoints me with oversharpening as well. They should’ve both gotten a same score. Then again, the Nokia N8 image looks very close in detail to the Z1, so maybe all three should’ve scored the same. The 808 PureView is clearly the winner though – no visible oversharpening and plenty of details.

  • Abdul Ghani

    Another denial guy I own Xperia arc Xperia s Xperia TX z z1 and lumia 1520 don’t judge people please and almost 550 signed my petition say same thing u said to me to them about z1 camera ull get 550 slaps lol

  • Brian Byron De Guzman

    afaik only Nikon uses Sony sensors, Canon makes their own, all these 3 giants of Japanese technology :)

  • Abdul Ghani

    Its ok I get it u paid full premium amount for Xperia z2 and u can’t afford lumia 1520 for the comparison but I own 1520 and z1 comes nowhere near its picture quality specially in low light and here the fun part I can take super pictures with hands shaking

  • Faisal Armand

    At least the noise type found in the Z1 is the luminance noise with small grain size. I can’t stand chromatic noise which appears in xperia s and xperia z outdoor shot. And interestingly my dad’s Canon 650D also shows chroma noise in certain conditions

  • Abdul Ghani

    to jog ur memory denial boy

    http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/01/camera-shootout-oneplus-one-versus-xperia-z2/

    and this is how a software should be and remm this one plus one uses sony 13mp camera

    https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/introducing-clear-image.83393/

  • roeshak

    It’s very interesting how you never make reference to anything that counters your arguments. You just keep on going! Let’s just agree to disagree. We just see pictures differently.

  • Arup

    Correct Canon makes its own.

  • haXona94

    I have to admit it’s been a joy to use Sony Phone cameras, the big issue is that many look at Samsung/Apple and see that the colours pop-out in not so normal ways. For the most part people are blinded to think that it is in one way better to have unnatural colours.
    So most of the time the annoying complaints are from people who actually really doesn’t know how a good natural reproduction of colours should look like.

    Either way here is my swansong from my old XS still holds up pretty well to most photos I take today with my Z2.
    It is all about tweaking the settings for your liking with manual mode.

    (Sorry about the compression but disqus doesn’t accept higher than 200kb for some reason)

  • Alex

    And what settings of the Xperia S should be – for taking so nice pictures?

  • Alex Norris

    So why in blind tests LG G3 with 13mp easily beats 20mpx Z2 with 30% bigger matrix??? http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/cameraphones_2014_part4.html Another blind test, and again G3 and 1020 are better than Xperia Z2 http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Blind_comparison_smartphones_cameras_final.html Why 2013 8 mpx. Nexus5 with new soft and it`s nice auto mode HDR+ kicks Z2 ass…? https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Emld_mX_2TeHY2M19wekU2UXc&usp=sharing&tid=0B_Emld_mX_2TU0gzcG1CTF9IX0U and Z2 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Emld_mX_2TT3RzcVBRSXJoYWs&usp=sharing&tid=0B_Emld_mX_2TU0gzcG1CTF9IX0U In your test Z2 beats Lumia 1020??? Seriously :D Watch this! Z2 vs Lumia 1020! no comments…)) http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/19810_Smartphone_camera_head_to_head.php So, the problem has been, and PLS dont talk this ( even if sony totally revamped its camera algorithm and make a laid back style processing, you guys would still complain, I guarantee it.) and Z1 comp. vs lumia 1520 http://pureviewclub.com/2014/21806 Goodluck!

  • kalyan

    Love you Xperia ‘S’, Sony’s 1st Flagship Device… <3 <3

  • Faisal Armand

    Those are blind tests. In blind tests, people choose oversharpened, oversaturated, and less noisy albeit a little soft pictures and coincidentally, those are characteristics of LG G3. And even Lumia 930, And two digital cameras that has 1/2.3″ and 1/1.7″ sensor are dwarfed in votes, and those three are far greater than LG G3.

    Did I said Z2 prevails over Lumia 1020? Look again, boy.. I said “Z2 won against all but lumia 1020″ in case you don’t know, “but” in this case has the same meaning as “except”

    Nexus 5’s HDR+ is one of the most unrealistic HDR, and most people like it that way and so do you.

    I found Xperia Z2 vs Lumia 1520 camera comparison, made by a nokia fanboy..

    http://pureviewclub.com/2014/23604

    You will see that in terms of details and noise handling, both are identical. And Z2 actually has the upperhand in dynamic range..

  • Alex Norris

    First: in blind tests, people choose the best quality photos and not oversharpened, i don’t need of your excuses.. People choice the best photo!

    Z2 won against all ! Oh..) in your test, maybe, but in i`ts tests on high-chech, with other competitors, no.

    Second: Nexus 5’s HDR+ is one of the most realistic HDR, dont talk bulshit, i gived you the real test, and your Z2 photos are overexpose, like always, and dinamic range not so good like on Nexus5

    Very good what you found Xperia Z2 vs Lumia 1520 camera comparison

    http://pureviewclub.com/2014/2

    and….?? Did you seen crops..? )

    Both are identical quality, yes, but… only on centre!

    Do you looked at the details on the edges of the pictures … I think you should take a closer look again! http://f-picture.net/lfp/s020.radikal.ru/i715/1408/50/e394b2e614dc.png/htm http://f-picture.net/lfp/s009.radikal.ru/i307/1408/a1/96a557a4f894.png/htm

  • Faisal Armand

    “people choice the best photo” are you kidding me? Even the votes for G3 is besting lumia 1020, and two dedicated digital cameras in most conditions. So are you telling me that G3 is better than all of them? 1/3″ camera is better than 1/1.5″ camera? Hello?

    I stick to real professionals if you ask me, not people’s choice as they hardly know anything about image quality. Professionals, dude. Do you know what I mean?

    http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/How-we-test-smartphones-The-DxOMark-Mobile-protocol

  • Shady

    better than my XV

  • Alex Norris

    Hmm.. So., people’s choice for you, it’s nothing, your opinion is above all. Very interesting logic Oo … oh., your lovely daddy – dxomark.)) And very good that you talked about the size of the sensor. You say to me that the camera with a small sensor can`t shoot better than compact cameras.

    Ok. But then answer me one question, why I should believe of some guys from dxomark which you call the professionals, because only 100% morons could shift the legendary cameraphone Nokia 808 Pureview, photo quality is sometimes compared to SLR cameras, on second and now the third place….?! http://mobileimho.ru/uploads/images/01/38/55/2014/06/24/2d6439.jpg

    808 Pureview third place not surprised you. but results of the blind voting yes.? And how it possible that the Lumia 1020 with a large matrix, which wins all possible tests and it referred to as the №2 camera after great 808 Pureview, but on dxomark 1020 took 7th place…))) http://gifus.ru/web/img/gif/znamenitosti/=GIFUS.RU=tupoy-i-eshe-tupee-1134.gif

    aha aha really 100% professionals!: xD

  • Dark Moyan

    A proud owner of Xperia S and it’s my daily driver. It’s a shame that my Xperia S didn’t got any update after 4.1 :(

  • Jesús López Sotelo

    Thanks, still surprises me I took that.

  • Jesús López Sotelo

    That Xperia S I’ve had was the best phone I could buy. I change it to the Z1 but it didn’t perform as I expected but overall it was a good phone until a friend broke the screen and now I have the Z2.

    But none of them compared to my XS experience (at its moment).

  • Shubham Mutreja

    THATS WHIT I SAY TO EVERYONE!!!!!!11
    XPERIA S IS BEST PHONE EVER!!!!
    (INCLUDING MY XPERIA MINI PRO…LOL)

  • Rogue

    Dear xperia blog just cause one user produced a book with good photos doesn’t mean that the software on the xperia handsets aren’t flawed and crippled by the poor processing algorithms. Take the hardware that any of the phones in the Z series have and give it to Apple, Samsung or any other manufacturer and I bet my last dollar the camera software will be better. Sony needs to improve their software like today and I think it will take rebuilding from the kernel up not just changing a few lines in the algorithms unfortunately. No way that your flagships should be chased by your own sensors in cheap Chinese phones so go figure. Work needs to be done with the software point blank, stop trying to reassure us with these kind of articles, yes the pics in the book are nice but it doesn’t mean that Sony hasn’t flawed the software.

  • Faisal Armand

    I bet you only see overall ratings, didn’t you?

    Look again boy..

    Z2 vs 1020 vs 808:

    DR: 88 vs 80 vs 78
    Colours: 74 vs 56 vs 80
    Autofocus: 84 vs 84 vs 73
    Texture: 83 vs 84 vs 88
    Noise: 84 vs 88 vs 91
    Artifacts: 68 vs 70 vs 89
    Flash: 85 vs 79 vs 81

    Overall: 81 vs 81 vs 79

    Even though lumia 1020 lost 2 points overall & 808 has the same overall score as Z2, I don’t see any “real” leads for Z2 here. Do you know what I mean, dude? In terms of Texture, Noise, and Artifacts (areas where larger sensor comes in handy and where image quality matters most) both nokias put Z2 to shame. Look again, please.

    Also, both nokias sucked in video (other sites have confirmed this). And they test both image and video quality. Z2 got a score of 73 in video while both nokias only scored 68 and 64.

    In case you haven’t read their PDF files, let me summarize this for you.

    – In photo tests, they shoot 400+ images and studio shots from all light conditions then evaluate them using dedicated photography tools, tough job isn’t it?. How many images do you see in other camera comparisons? Not even 50 at maximum, I bet.
    – In video tests they shoot video 22-25 times. Gsmarena only shoot 2 scene + 1 studio shot

    Also their final score comprises of photo and video score: (image quality * 2/3) + (video quality * 1/3)

    Then came to your “genius” logic:

    “And very good that you talked about the size of the sensor. You say to me that the camera with a small sensor can`t shoot better than compact cameras.”

    Yeah yeah yeah why don’t you compare LG G3 against a freakin DLSR, then?

    “Ok. But then answer me one question, why I should believe of some guys from dxomark which you call the professionals, because only 100% morons could shift the legendary cameraphone Nokia 808 Pureview, photo quality is sometimes compared to SLR cameras, on second and now the third place….?!”

    “808 Pureview third place not surprised you. but results of the blind voting yes.? And how it possible that the Lumia 1020 with a large matrix, which wins all possible tests and it referred to as the №2 camera after great 808 Pureview, but on dxomark 1020 took 7th place…)))”

    Again, look at my arguments before about how dxo’s methods of testing cameraphone.

    And I also find it funny that all of you nokia fanboys hailed dxo as the most trustworthy photography review site on the net (at that time I was thinking it’s only a matter of time until a cameraphone with a well balanced photo & video score took its place) when 808 is still at the top then all of you lost your minds when Z2 and S5 now stands at the top. XD

    Now that is the reason I wasn’t surprised when 808 lost its top position

  • Alex Norris

    Oh, so big text and alot of numbers … xD
    Really looks funny when you and others who believe of this shit.
    I’ll tell you even more! I was the editor of Xperia Z3 group, i also was a member of Z2 group, and all those who bought the Z2, they showed samples photos, none of them was not satisfied with the post processing of images. I just will show you the best samples of Xperia Z2 , and you yourself draw conclusions ) Zoom all )

    http://vk.com/doc106589487_296732723?hash=ae0f6dc9e8f287e036&dl=7c515103c48cccc0a7

    http://vk.com/doc106589487_296733193?hash=86b7d5fd4db0fa283f&dl=cf708ea1ff99957b72

    http://vk.com/doc106589487_296734327?hash=0268f3796c997d1dc9&dl=5a5ce82a69b81608сд

    Form gsmArena http://www.gsmarc.com/device-images/sony/sony-xperia-z2/photo-sample/img15704968350000.jpg

    Z2 night shots:

    http://mobiltelefon.ru/i/other/may14/01/camera_z2_08.jpg

    http://musicphotolife.blogspot.com/2014/04/sony-xperia-z2-review-first-impressions.html

    http://cs616226.vk.me/v616226043/1c006/Peczpe_kjAM.jpg

    http://vk.com/doc106589487_296733025?hash=04dde7a4d370647af1&dl=ea65631594e59040ee

    Now – Nokia 808 Pureview quality:

    This samples of my camera. i’m not professional, and i dont updated my 808 Pureview on last version, this samples without Camera Pro

    http://cs617331.vk.me/v617331816/1be25/sYWt7_vtdZw.jpg

    http://f-picture.net/lfp/i058.radikal.ru/1408/51/9e7371ca8c4d.jpg/htm

    http://f-picture.net/lfp/i078.radikal.ru/1310/a3/8016fb018abd.jpg/htm

    http://f-picture.net/lfp/s004.radikal.ru/i207/1408/b9/124fd411ac0c.jpg/htm

    Look on Z2 Post Processing, and from 808 pureview:)
    Dude, you still believe dxomark results…. xD

    Oh, I almost forgot, pal works in a shop equipment, where he sells photo equipment and smartphones. So, he says, photo quality of 808 pureview higher than on Sony Z2 and Samsung S5. He tell me that samsung better in terms of the camera. By the way, he promised a make camera test between Xperia Z2, SGS5, and 808 Pureview, and am afraid that your Z2, not wins this testI am afraid that your Z2, not wins this test…D

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  • George Z

    i liked your shots Alex. Nice work 808 pureview! Honestly i don’t believe of DXOmark too, this test looks little strange. Even Z1 shoots better than 1020?! i think is bullshit

  • Faisal Armand

    DUH! Dude, did I say that Z2 is better than 808 or 1020? Look precisely at my earlier comments, please -_____-” (facepalm)

    “Even though lumia 1020 lost 2 points overall & 808 has the same overall score as Z2, I don’t see any “real” leads for Z2 here. Do you know what I mean, dude? In terms of Texture, Noise, and Artifacts (areas where larger sensor comes in handy and where image quality matters most) both nokias put Z2 to shame. Look again, please.”

    “Z2 won against all but lumia 1020″

    I told you again, bro.. In areas where image quality matters most, both 808 and 1020 puts Z2 to shame. Then again, maybe I should ask you this? What areas matters most when you are reviewing image quality?

    http://musicphotolife.blogspot

    The author actually praised Z2’s camera, you bum… HAHA! Look again. ” I am very impressed with low light performance of Z2, but you can’t expect DSLR quality from a smartphone”

    S5 is better than Z2? In terms of what? Daylight performance? Okay maybe S5 is a tad sharper, but that sharpness came from aggresive sharpening. Plus there is aggresive noise reduction, and overblown colours and contrast all of which make the photos unnatural looking.

    In indoors, night shots, and extreme low light conditions, Z2 completely sh*ts all over S5. It is hardly surprising considering S5’s ISO tops at 2000 and Z2 can still go all the way up to 6400 and it’s hardly surprising as well that S5’s aggreaive processing turn against it as the light levels go worse, making photos soft, washed out, and overprocessed.. Oh, don’t believe me? Watch this..

    DUH! Dude, did I say that Z2 is better than 808 or 1020? Look precisely at my earlier comments, please -_____-” (facepalm)

    “Even though lumia 1020 lost 2 points overall & 808 has the same overall score as Z2, I don’t see any “real” leads for Z2 here. Do you know what I mean, dude? In terms of Texture, Noise, and Artifacts (areas where larger sensor comes in handy and where image quality matters most) both nokias put Z2 to shame. Look again, please.”

    “Z2 won against all but lumia 1020″

    I told you again, bro.. In areas where image quality matters most, both 808 and 1020 puts Z2 to shame. Then again, maybe I should ask you this? What areas matters most when you are reviewing image quality?

    http://musicphotolife.blogspot

    The author actually praised Z2’s camera, you bum… HAHA! Look again. ” I am very impressed with low light performance of Z2, but you can’t expect DSLR quality from a smartphone”

    S5 is better than Z2? In terms of what? Daylight performance? Okay maybe S5 is a tad sharper, but that sharpness came from aggresive sharpening. Plus there is aggresive noise reduction, and overblown colours and contrast all of which make the photos unnatural looking.

    In indoors, night shots, and extreme low light conditions, Z2 completely sh*ts all over S5. It is hardly surprising considering S5’s ISO tops at 2000 and Z2 can still go all the way up to 6400 and it’s hardly surprising as well that S5’s aggresive processing turn against it as the light levels go worse, making the images soft, noisy, washed out, and overprocessed. Oh, don’t believe me? Watch this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlAxqNfHBbc

  • Alex Norris

    For me, image quality matters most! If camera can`t show you great quality, it can`t be called the good camera phone, if even it will have more faster shots, 4k, or 8k video, R-effects, ect. Can Z2 show me this quality like on 808 Pureview , especially with Camera Pro?! Answer – No, no, no! The end!) When you see on Z2 samples you understand, it`s phone camera, but when you see samples from 808 pureview, you don’t believe that it photos taken by phone camera! You feel what 808 it’s another level ! So.., Dxomark test for me, nothing means.

    For example: how it possible that Dynamic Range on Z better than D.R on 808 & 1020.. )) Lumia 1020 has nice DR, better than on Z2. Watch again

    http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/golf-1020.jpg

    http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/golf-z2.JPG

    again you can see, 1020`s DR better http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/road-1020.jpg

    http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/road-z2.JPG

    And, i dont want talk about 100% crops.. Lumia on crops – distroy Z2 camera. on Sony photos when you see crops we can see pixels. For example: !00% crop from Lumia http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/golf-zoom-1020.jpg

    and Sony http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/golf-zoom-z2.JPG

    Zoom pls. Huge difference!

    Next… Flash! Flash: 85 vs 79 vs 81 Oh) It`s looks like fucking joke))

    Look on 1020 flash working http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/party-1020.jpg

    and Z2 http://mediafiles.allaboutwindowsphone.com/z2/party-z2.JPG And Zoom again PLS. Lumia 1020 photo looks like from SLR camera, and Z2 photo looks like taken from bad phone camera

    I`m again repeat my question; do you still belive Dxomark test…?

  • Alex Norris

    Thanks man!

  • Shubham Mutreja

    i installed cybershot camera mod on my rooted xperia and camera is very awesome for 5 mp

  • Alex Norris

    Your last comment is awaiting moderation. My previous comment was deleted. Why xperiablog blocked my comment i dont know

  • Alex Norris

    Answering: about flash. Small Z1 and Z2 diode flash cant be better than double xenon flash on 808 & 1020!

    I saw many camera test with Sony Z, Z1, Z2, Xperia`s flash work – the worst. Shots taken by flash always was noisy with horrible detalization. I don’t know how Dxomark guys gives Sony cameras so high points

    This test was buyed. Nowadays, everything can be bought and sold . Believe yourself, not some tests. Dude, If you compared Lumia 1020 vs Sony, and did you don’t notice big difference on shots taken by flash…. ???If they was be honest guys, but today I would not say ..

    Photos taken by flash – Z1 and Z2 even static objects are lubricated , I’m not talking about moving cars … xD

    Always i see only bad noisy samples with flash http://www.tlbhd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/image-comparison-2.jpg

    Again another example:

    http://mediafiles.allaboutsymbian.com/z1dec/beer-1020.jpg
    http://mediafiles.allaboutsymbian.com/z1dec/beer-n8.jpg
    http://mediafiles.allaboutsymbian.com/z1dec/beer-808.jpg
    http://mediafiles.allaboutsymbian.com/z1dec/beer-z1.JPG
    http://mediafiles.allaboutsymbian.com/z1dec/beercomp.jpg

    And you sent me pictures from flikr. Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Pentax, and where Z1 or Z2 …https://www.flickr.com/explore/2014/08/19/with/14968756355

    About Nokia N8 and Xperia Z1 Z2. maybe now Z1-Z2 shows photo quality similar N8 quality, maybe in some moments better or not.. Between cameras 3-4 years, dude, 4 years! ) Sony need 3 years, that really be competitor for nokia xD

  • Faisal Armand

    It seems my comment is blocked as well.

    If you look closely about the flash thing that I said dude.. I also don’t understand how dxo tests flash. Then again we are not the same as them, they have a different mindset than us

    “I saw many camera test with Sony Z, Z1, Z2, Xperia`s flash work – the worst. Shots taken by flash always was noisy with horrible detalization. I don’t know how Dxomark guys gives Sony cameras so high points”

    Before I bought Xperia Z2, I owned Xperia Z. I tell you this, Xperia Z’s flash is very weak then when I test Z2’s flash, the Z2 is much better & more powerful. And when compared to Samsung Galxy S5’s flash, let’s say.. Z2’s flash isn’t as powerful but the white balance is much better and red eye correction is excellent. Then again, I don’t say it is better than Xenon flash.

    Oh, as for the noise and horrible detail with Z2’s flash, then again superior auto mode is to be blamed for this, even if flash is used the software doesn’t even bother to reduce ISO and shutter speed. If I use manual mode, it’s a hell.of a different story

    As for nokia n8 vs Xperia Z1/Z2.. Even if they are 3 years apart, Xperia Z1/Z2 is up against a camera whose sensor size is close to that of lumia 1020. Then again, I should do the math for you XD

    Nokia N8: 1/1.8″ sensor size, 12MP, 1.75um
    Xperia Z1/Z2: 1/2.3″ sensor size, 20.7MP, 1.12um

    If you are really a pixel junkie, then you understand the advantages of big sensor and big pixel size.. For Z1/Z2 to match N8 is amazing enough, let alone beat it by a hair XD..

  • Alex Norris

    Tell me, how it possible that at the moment the leader in dxomark rating is samsung ..)) And you and I know, that Sony sensor size is ​​30% more than on all android competitors and IOS .. .And why did you decided to show me your video only the night mode, samsung against Sony, alluding to the fact that samsung is shit and sony masterpiece))

    And secondly, again about the Nokia N8 and its sensor. N8 has a little bigger sensor than the Z1 and Z2, but then again, you don`t hear me, Dude, I repeat, difference between smartphones in 3-4 years, I repeat, 3-4 years! 3 years, it’s a lot for the mobile industry. LOL For this time span, we see the new technologies!

  • Faisal Armand

    First of all, Samsung S5’s sensor size is 1/2.6″ not 1/3″ like all other flagship devices like LG, Oppo, or iphone.

    Oh you can see the daylight comparison as well, the uploader has it and he has a DSLR as a reference. You will se that both S5 and Z2’s Quality in daylight are identical but Z2’s colour & contrast management is the closest to DSLR.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TS3s6Asqe9M

    As for both Z2 and S5’s position in DXO:

    I don’t know what you meant by “leader” as both phones scored the same. But I’ll tell you why they both are equal.

    First. This is dxo’s calculation of final score: (photo score * 2/3) + (video score * 1/3) Z2 is better in photo, S5 is better on video. One of the main reasons why Z2 is better in photo quality is well balanced daylight and low light performance, while the S5 is only great when the light levels are good.

    Second. In video test, dxo doesn’t test at 4K resolution but in 1080p. 1080p will give S5 big advantages as in its 4K mode, S5’s stabilization is ineffective and low light performance is poor..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHRw05nzDas

    As for the relation of 3 years span and technologies that bring quality even though a tiny sensor is used.. I don’t know dude.. Because for example, 5MP cyber shot era sony phone is capable of outperforming today’s 8MP phone. So I think it still depends on sensor size and the capabilities of processing images.

    Dude, 1/1.8″ and 1/2.3″ is a big difference.. N8’s sensor is about 40-45% larger than Z2, not small.. Don’t make me do the math again..

    If you compare.. Let’s say.. The sensor size of galaxy s5, lumia 1520, and Xperia Z2.. 1/2.6″ vs 1/2.5″ vs 1/2.3″ now that is small differences

  • Alex Norris

    I’m downloaded your original samples . Hmm.. in your video, you tried say what Z2 samples looks more like from Canon, are you talking it specifically, what would people have said “Sony removes like as DSLR”)

    Samsung on daily time takes more sharper than your Z2, SGS5 shots has better detalisation and the white balance to, than on your Sony Z2, which each image shows warm WB and bad detalisation (blurred details). Only on night mode, xperia Z2 is better than S5! Xperia Z2 having more bigger sensor than on samsung, but sony losing. But IMHO, Sony and Samsung are showing us phone quality photos, but no more. I have to tell you that Sony need to work very hard to be a real competitor for the 808 Pureview! While they have different levels, Sony Z2 level of markedly below than great 808 pureview level, and this strange Dxomark test nothing says, it’s their opinion, but only their opinion …)

    Do you know what I mean. Now, if we are will argue with you on the topic “What is better as a car, Ferrari 430 or Volkswagen Passat”? What do you will answer ..? ))

  • Faisal Armand

    In daylight comparison, yes S5 is tad more detailed. But I just don’t like its boosted colour and contrast.

    About the WB issue I agree with you though, ftom my experience of using the Z2, it needs constant WB adjustments. And colour shading is a bit of an issue as well. That is why dxo gives Z2 a colour score of 74, while S5 got 82.

    “Only on night mode, xperia Z2 is better than S5! Xperia Z2 having more bigger sensor than on samsung, but sony losing”

    In indoors and extreme light conditions, Z2 beats S5 as well, not only night conditions. And how is it sony losing when it actually beats S5 in 2-3 conditions while S5 only wins in 1? And that is the purpose of larger sensor, right? To collect more light as the light levels go down.

    I think it depends on the user, if a user often goes to a bar or pub, he better use Z2 to snap photos. If a user spends most of his time outdoors on daylight, S5 is a better choice for him

    Comparing Z2’s camera against S5 camera is like comparing Mercedes C- Class against BMW 3 series

    Dude, even lumia 1520 with 1/2.5″ 19MP sensor isn’t able to beat 1/3″ 13MP Galaxy Note 3 in daylight situations, it only managed a draw. Look!

    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_vs_nokia_lumia_1520-review-1027p7.php

    “Sony need to work very hard to be a real competitor for the 808 Pureview! While they have different levels, Sony Z2 level of markedly below than great 808 pureview level”

    First, sony must at least give a phone a similar sensor size to 808. If sony is still sticking to a 1/2.3″ sensor, it isn’t gonna happen. But to give you some idea of what might happen when sony gives a phone similar sensor size to 808, look at this. See how QX 100 completely destroyed both 808 and 1020

    http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/19323_Ultimate_smartphonecamera_add-.php,

    “and this strange Dxomark test nothing says, it’s their opinion, but only their opinion”

    LOL dude still ranting about dxomark. I don’t need to tell you again.

    1. dxomark’s score comprises of both photos and videos
    2. If you look closely and comprehensively to their tests which you think has no meaning for you, you will also find that 808 is still waaaay superior than Z2 or S5.

  • Alex Norris

    About Note3 and lumia 1520, wanna say that Note3 the best camera on android, even Xperia fans say, yes note3 camera is better than on Z1 & Z1 compact. For example, I’ll tell you that Note 3 is no worse than the current SGS5. At a photo forums, I’ve always liked shots taken by Note3 and many 808 Pureview owners, also praised Note 3 camera. At night, it probably shoots no better and no worse than SGS5, I want to say that the night scene has always been a weakness of the samsung. But lumia 1520, as well as Z2, night shoots better, but early 1520 versions had problems with the white balance, and I want to say that on 1020 shots, has some problems with WB, unlike the 808 which has no such problems. As for the QX 100, 3 month ago, i saw this review, but the result did not surprise me, since QX 100, has a larger matrix and more large optic lens, and the distance between the lenses is also of great value, even better reflected in the quality photo , so I was not surprised by losing 808, but 808 can compete on equal terms with the QX 10, and we know that QX 10 lens and matrix is taken from SLR Sony RX-100 What sony need to do urgently , so it is to revive the legendary K-series Cyber-shot and do it with slightly protruding lens like on 808 pureview but little compactly, and then Nokia will have big problems.. But unfortunately sony is playing a double game, she wants to make money on their lenses, perhaps therefore, smartphones Xperia line, there are problems with post processing. But sony need to go VABank, because now the Chinese smartphones with Sony sensors, shootings better than smartphones Xperia. OnePlus One & ViVo Xshot, especially ViVo, they are gaining market share. Sony need K seria, only Cyber-shot camerapones can kick nokia`s ass! S.O.S

  • Faisal Armand

    As for Note 3 and S4’s camera performance when compared to S5, I believe they are equal. S5 is only slightly better at low light.

    But when compared to Z1/Z1C.. I dunno, but this should give you an idea

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/2

    In natural detail resolving test using vertical and horizontal bars. Both S5 and S4 scores 1800 lph horizontally and vertically, but the Z1s scored 2000lph vertically and 1800lph horizontally.

    In low light test, S4 is barely usable, S5 is tiny bit better, LG G2 is very clean of noise but soft. Z1s is slightly noisy but has the most detail.

    My uncle owns a note 3 and when I compared its camera against my Z2 in daylight, both are equal but Z2 has the upper hand in terms of DR. But shooting indoors and at night it’s a hell of a different story. Note 3’s images are very soft and full of artifacts while Z2’s images are still sharp and relatively clean, only small frequency luminance noise is noticeable.

    As for early versions of lumia 1020 and lumia 1520. 1020 has problems with oversharpening and oversaturated colours with unstable white balance. 1520 has green tint which ocassionaly ruin the image. But if i’m not mistaken, lumia black update came to solve all of those problems

    QX10 has on par frequency with 808? Blimey dude! QX10 sensor size is the same as Z1 & Z2! How is that possible?

    You’re right dude, Sony could have easily optimise Z1, Z1C, Z2 camera helluva lot better but they choose not to because point & shoot and smart lens sales will drop massively. It’s unfortunate, really.

  • Faisal Armand

    Whoa whoa whoa.. S5 is better than Z2 in daylight? In some situations, yes. But in some other daylight situations, Z2 is better. Here are the proofs, found them at a polish tech site (+1 indoor shot)

    So the conclusion is, Z2 is all around better camera phone than S5. Not talking about 808 here, dude

  • Alex Norris
  • Faisal Armand

    I told you again, a polish tech site. That test also featured nokia 808 but I decided to swap it out because.. You know, both S5 and Z2 is unable to match it.

    I think the crops from my samples doesn’t really surprise me as the S5 has aggresive noise reduction that blurs low contrast details.

    Your Z2 samples has soft spot and sharp at the centre.

    In case you don’t know, each Z2 units are shipped with different units. There is one with consistent corner to corner sharpness, and there is one with defective lens.

    Oh phonearena? The most inconsistent tech site ever XD

    In your link, Z1s was ranked below i5s, lumia 1520, galaxy s4, and LG G2. And strange enough that S4 is rated higher than Note 3 even though they have EXACTLY THE SAME image processing XD

    It is a different story here:

    http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-Comparison-Google-Nexus-5-vs-iPhone-5s-Sony-Xperia-Z1-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Galaxy-S4-LG-G2-Nokia-Lumia-1020-HTC-One_id3500/page/8

    It’s the same website, and camera comparison took place on the same spots, and Xperia Z1 with launch firmware that has lousy software is only losing to lumia 1020 and ranked higher than S4, G2, i5s, and Note 3 XD. Xperia Z1 and Z1s is pretty much the same phone, only internal storage space separates them

  • Alex Norris

    Well, in your samples i see that Z1 is not far ahead of S4 and Note3. And most likely there are different firmware. But are moments where S4 takes more sharper photos than even Z2! And on Z2 samples, we can see purple hues

    Z2 http://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/4b/0d/f5235d3db040589da1e686e195eco.jpg

    S4 http://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/f4/e6/092ff42e6b36142b2f08c3becad4o.jpg

    Z2 http://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/ba/05/9c1d3bdbaf1033224f2f9c3fc0d9o.jpg

    S4 http://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/a7/ea/b4cb72191e5854b0e669af146cdbo.jpg

    Crops: https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/04/6e/958b613b247d3b41c47671e771c8.jpg

    https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_img/source/03/c6/174b8863df09fd138b5d9c4007e0.jpg

    PS. And the fact that Sony delivers different batches of goods, it is not good for the image. For example: in Russian versions a lot of marriage, the lens are not centered, overheats twice faster than eg: German or English Xperias. Since I was an editor, I know how many marriages has sony smartphones , they are champions for the marriage, and as such the company Sony admits ??? Even Chinese smartphones become more reliable than the Japanese Sony! Buying a sony smartphones, it similar to lotteries, it should not be for such great company like Sony. People do not trust Sony. When you pay for a smartphone 800-900 bucks, then there should be all safely and at a high level, but unfortunately, Sony does not show this high level.

  • Faisal Armand

    So I think Z2, S4, Note 3 and S5 are pretty much equal in daylight conditions. There are moments where Z2 wins, there are moments where 3 samsungs will win, and there are moments where all phones are equal.

    But to crown an award of the best camera on android smartphone, I need a cameraphone that performs great both in good light and in low light. Samsung cameras are very powerful in daylight, but starting indoors even at relatively low ISO of 200-320, details are already smudged heavily. So I think you know which cameraphone on android is the most well balanced for me. But again, that is me, not you.

    From what I know from sony lottery here and there:

    – Xperia Z1 has display lottery. There are units with high quality TFT display with a contrast ratio of 1:1500 and good viewing angles but there are also units with EXACTLY THE SAME display as Xperia Z! A low contrast ratio of 1:700 with washed colours and bad viewing angles.

    – Xperia Z2 has different lens in every units. There is one off centre, there is one on centre, there are units with a soft spots, and there are units with consistent corner to corner softness. My Z2 has off centre lens, but there is no soft spots.

    – Noise cancelling headset isn’t available on all units and that is very frustrating. My classmate also owns Z2 but she doesn’t have the NC headset while I have.

    I don’t know why sony is doing this, it is horrible enough -___-“

  • Alex Norris

    Yep, and while Sony leads a double play, the Chinese are already beginning to overtake them. I heard that Oneplus One camera soon will have RAW , and Vivo Xshot, one friend told me, what on camera comparison, Z2 lose ( We see the new players, an famous A brand like Sony, soon will have big problems. And we can see that the Sony strategy it’s only bla bla bla, if you see Xperia Z3 and its characteristics, and design, you will not see new innovations, it`s IMHO looks ugly, and round bezels it`s iphone 6 or Lumia 925, but no Sony style.. No ideas, no innovations, than because Sony must change its leadership, which only knows many talking, many promises, and actually leads the company into a dead end!

  • Faisal Armand

    Take xiaomi for example.. In my country, Indonesia.. Xiaomi has recently started its operational activites and they sell xiaomi mi3 for only half the price of Galaxy S5 and Xperia Z2! Damn! I would actually love to see big name manufacturer such as sony, lg, and samsung to lower the price of their flagship phone XD

    I’m also seriously disappointed with Xperia Z3 if all the leaked specs are true, that is. Nothing new at all, the only thing that’s impressive about it is they are able to put 1/2.3″ sensor inside a 7.3mm smartphone.. In my opinion, sony shouldn’t even make xperia Z3 at all. I think they should make a successor of Xperia Z ultra and concentrate on Xperia Z3 compact.

    Yep, Sony REALLY NEEDS RAW SUPPORT, especially for Xperia Z1/Z1C/Z2.. I would really love to fix some errors of its default image processing. You know, toning down aggresive noise reduction and fix that overly excessive sharpening.

    I would love a full manual controls like HTC M8 and Nokia lumias.. You know, in my flickr account.. My Night shots that are taken with 0.8s exposure time is already great, imagine if they are taken in 2 or 4s exposure time..

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