Manual camera settings not supported in Android 5.1 Xperia Z3 series release

by XB on 21st July 2015

in Android, Firmware, Imaging, Xperia Z3 series


Camera iconBad news for those hoping that Sony Mobile would add manual camera settings to the latest Android 5.1.1 Lollipop firmware release that has started to hit the Xperia Z3 series today. A quick check on the “Manual Camera Compatibility” app shows that, as before, no manual camera settings (manual focus, WB, ISO, shutter speed, RAW) are supported.

We expect this will be the case for all other 2013/14 Sony Xperia models being updated to Android 5.1 over the coming months. The latest flagship, the Sony Xperia Z3+ does support manual settings through the Android Lollipop Camera2 API, albeit with the exception of RAW support.

Xperia Z3 Compact Android 5.1.1 Manual Camera Settings

Thanks Mario Junior!

  • Too bad. But I hope that means they focused on improving other aspects of the camera.

  • DBS

    So far I’ve seen no evidence that the Z3+ ACTUALLY supports manual focus etc. Running an app proves nothing. They could be false positives.

    As for the news itself…well, nothing new. Just Sony slacking and disappointing yet again.

  • Svnjay

    Why not buy a DSLR?

  • gamer324

    My guess is Sony just paid as little attention to this 5.1 update as possible, pretty sure all their SW resources are diverted to that ‘new concept’ UI that’s going to go into closed beta from 27th July, remember that the beta is also only for the z3.
    Manual camera support is honestly BS if the algorithms are going to spit out a JPEG, so I just hope Sony drops the legacy mode of the Camera2 api and adopts the full specs for the M release.

  • gamer324

    Well because DSLRs are big, heavy, bulky and wayyyyy too expensive for most people.
    Most people have a laptop and a smartphone so with RAW support they can experiment with proper photo editing without needing to splash so much cash.

  • Fempter

    Fuck you Sony. Z2 is my first and last smarthphone from you.

  • Tobias Hedlund

    Better to buy the LG G4 if it´s a great camera you want.

  • Do not expect much, small focus settings

  • Mario Junior

    Oh c’mon, get out of here with that argument.

  • Matt

    you can buy a DSLR with roughly the same amount as the Z3 . .

  • Dion

    Does it have wlan? Or can I call people with it? Just stop complainin its a phone not a fucking camera z3 is good enough for taking pictures if you idiots want good photos then next time buy a fucking camera and fuck off from the mobile world always crying around

  • Svnjay

    “Does it have wlan? Or can I call people with it?”

    You can if it runs Android.

  • Dion

    Yeah go to work/school with a camera

  • Dion

    The problem with you guys is you cant see the difference between a camera if a phone, and dont come up with other phones because switching a phone for the camera with minimal difference in picture quality is just bullshit

  • PoweredBySony

    If you have root you can add some manual settings from z3+ to Z1/Z2/Z3/Z1C/Z3C . tHE THREAD for this is posted in video description and other features will be ported for our devices

    https://youtu.be/95t0ei_g6ZM

  • Faisal Armand

    http://media0.giphy.com/media/3gCACFVV3VRWo/giphy.gif

    Alright, I may consider buying Sony A6000 DSLR. I’ve had enough of Sony’s way of doing smartphone business. Cannibal piece of sh*t!

  • DieMusik

    Raw capture is a must for me. Please SONY support camer2 api to the fullest.

  • Alvin

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Rumor-Sony-to-introduce-two-new-high-end-Android-phones-Xperia-S60-and-Xperia-S70_id71785

    Well that explained my “Xperia Z Spectre” and “PlayStation Phone RX” dream last night

  • betatesterz

    Say an Xperia Z3 costs $1000. A low end DSLR costs just about as much.

    If i get both, i’d be shelling out $2000.

    Why should i shell out $2000 when i can get both functionality in my smartphone for only $1000?

    Given the DLSR takes better pictures, but that’s not the point here. I would like to have more control over the camera features of my phone regardless the image quality as compared to the low end DSLR.

  • xperiaDROID

    OMG…you seriously think that Sony will include this into their not-so-major 5.1 update? This update is mainly for fixing bugs and adding some minor tweaks, that’s all.

    You want whatever API shit, wait for Android M with their next flagship. Common sense, people. This is marketing.

  • kido

    :( :( :( :( ok selling my z3 compact. Hopefully sony steps up its game with the z5….dont disappoint next round please sony.

  • Abdul Ghani

    i say if anyone wants really good picture quality get qx series camera its pricing is good and really good in performance i own qx10/30

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  • Utsav Shah

    I’d like sony to give a legit reason for not implementing manual settings in z3.

  • Utsav Shah

    Wait, was this the answer?

  • gamer324

    Doesn’t change the fact that they big, bulky and heavy.

  • Matt

    I’m 100 % agreed. well said

  • Matt

    So? If all you want is a picture that’s the way to go

  • Matt

    Compared to dslr, that’s your mistake there. You can’t compare a phone with dslr. Manual shutter would be nice but not worth bitching about

  • Utsav Shah

    Son, we’re not talking about unlocking megapixels here!

  • Nikita Dvoryankin

    Its very bad news camera in z3 / z3 + although it has one of the best camera module. But with this attitude with the implementation of software image processing for z3 z3 + it is not surprising that z3 / z3 + get the worst assessment in testing cameras in all editions. And those photos that were shown during the presentation of Sony z3 / z3 + casual users to achieve such a result is practically impossible. Even HTC m9 with the camera which is worst of all characteristics in raw mode removes much better z3 / z3 +. Those regimes that Sony offers users – just usherbny: z3 2014 flagship shoots in hdr 8mpx only mode. I am the owner and z3 galaxy i9300 (galaxy s3) and I can say in some situations s3 shoots better than z3

  • Matt

    yes regardless of everything else , like dirty UI, and plastic build ,not so good battery life. yes g4 is good

  • Claudiu

    Lovely, they piss the Z3+ buyers with the heat issues and now they piss the Z3 buyers as well so 2 sets of potential buyers maybe switching to other manufacturers.
    Good job Sony! *slow_clap*
    If the G4 would have had decent battery life, it would have been an instabuy for me, but it’s just a matter of time (maybe the OnePlus Two?)

  • Claudiu

    I would agree with you, mostly since, as far as I know, no other manufacturer supports Camera2 API on devices released with KitKat.
    Buuuuuuut, to say 5.1 fixes bugs? lol, have you at least seen the changelog? All the major issues like the mobile radio battery drain will still be there!

  • betatesterz

    It’s good that Sony gives you a decent set of choices to choose from.

    …it’s THE Xperia Z3!

    – A camera with a camera that is (i quote from sonyXperia twitter) “that bit better”.
    – Also comes with an full featured built in egg toaster that allows you to multitask by playing games and toasting an egg =)

  • I do not like this. Why did you do this Sony?

  • RockStar2005

    Sony, if you’re reading this…….. GET A CLUE!! Manual Settings are a MUST!!!! Unless I see CONCRETE EVIDENCE that the new Auto camera can do what the Manual does, I will have 0 interest in using it. I’m already going to check out other camera apps so that I have a backup in case you actually proceed with this madness.

  • Alvin

    Youre so mean that you forgot that its not just for an egg, you forgot it can also be used as an iron

  • Alvin

    Well it is, but a dslr and a phone is just like a sky and a land, way too different, that is way off course, its difference is so far

  • vov

    WTF Sony? This is my first and last Sony mobile! I do not care RAW but, There is no Tap to focus (i do not want to use hardware button! an do not want tap to take pic!) there is no tap to exposure (this is the biggest MINUS!) Can not measure exposure automatically! Auto mode is horror! Fuck off Sony whit your crappy camera App! It is outdated! Is this so hard to use googles new camera api?

    p.s. sorry for my bad English.

  • Alvin

    Hah what a stupid reason to sell your phone. You sell your z3c just because it doesnt have a proper manual mode? People must wake up from that bullshit

  • Alvin

    Really? I have tap to focus in my z3.. or am i wrong? Because i have that feature and working

  • Alvin

    Well not really hard to use to me, its simple but they need to just give us proper manual mode and give us a great quality at least

  • PoweredBySony

    Sir you have extra iso settings HDR at 20 and 15 MPX and high res in sa. Maybe more from the z3+ will be added

  • mountain

    Nope, A7Rii itself will be US$3,200.

  • jxPerience

    do you know that xperia camera performs better than competitions? If you know how to use it well. Don’t cry non existent xperia user,

  • jxPerience

    yeah, he don’t know what he’s saying, because in real life he don’t have xperia

  • roeshak

    I think with comments like those ,the only idiot here is you!

  • jxPerience

    okay, changing z3c other than sony will make you cry louder than not having proper manual mode

  • Lukas

    Where can i get those buttons from WP?

  • jxPerience

    with z3+ i can use 20mp in manual mode?

  • jxPerience

    oh, i will never replace my z2 to that so called best camera G4. Even i will get it free, i will not open the box and resell it online.

  • Saiprasad Todankar

    i think we should not update 5.1.1 because in new few months..i think android 5.2 will be updated..Hope so it will be solve all problems face in xperia phones

  • roeshak

    Hear hear! We’ve seen no evidence that the z3+ supports any sort of manual controls. We haven’t seen them tested using any 3rd party apps. In fact all that’s confirmed is that z3+ has even less manual controls with no iso control at full resolution!
    Sony’s just taking the piss

  • Akand

    LG could never attracts me with their design and build quality while Huawei could do a little bit.

  • Utsav Shah
  • Naail Zahid

    But aren’t you the one that always claimed Z2 has the best camera in the world? :P

  • Abdul Ghani

    yeah that what he claimed all the time and showed those shitty pictures on flickr

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Seems to me there are tons of idiots here commenting without actually owning any xperia phone.
    Every Xperia phone HAS Manual mode WITH manual WB, manual Focus, manual ISO….

    This crap written report is all about google camera2 api support which doesnt have anything to do with sonys own software support…
    And some of you haters here really show off your ignorance at its highest peak…

  • Utsav Shah

    Iso values are good but you know that HDR in sony phones are a joke. I can reproduce the effect of HDR in VSCOCAM or snapseed.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Actually z3+ makes overall better stills, and 4k video on g4 is a monstrosity. Along with better screen, better SoC, better batterylife, better build, stereo speakers….well, G4 seems a bad alternative

  • UI is subjective i hate it but he might like it what is wrong with people and btw G4 has good battery life stop being so mind closed to Sony

  • Alright alright show me two pictures one with Z3+ and one with G4 to see who is better and G4 has an older SoC but one that doesn’t overheat and i can agree with better battery life and speakers and build is subjective btw i like the leather more than the glass at least it wont crack when it drops on back

  • Ok i don’t use Sony’s camera app so it is an excuse for them not to implement CameraAPI2 because they have manual mode what if i wanted to use another camera app what would i do huh ?

  • Yeah i know my Z3 performs better than the competition Proof :

  • Alvin

    Go buy him an xperia e or something so he can finally discover xperia better

  • Dion

    I’m not an idiot but

  • charbel aoun

    i like your windows 10 UI

  • Matt

    fine battery life , but a downgrade from z3,or z2 . . thats for sureyes yes youre a fanboy, im a fanboy ,everybody is a fanboy . . i got it already. discrediting people by blaming them as a fanboy . . not new , and very cheap.

    i do not care whether if youre a fanboy or not , as long as you give a rational reason to rebutt my argument.

  • KarenREsparza
  • kido

    Look its my choice ok. I love my xperia z3 compact to bits but the tech world is moving on so if sony doesn’t up its game then that’s just sad.

  • kido

    Yup the camera is really important to me. I was really hoping sony would give us full manual mode with 5.1.1 however this is not the case so goodbye for now z3 compact. I bought this last year cos it had one of the best camera a smartphone could offer. I actually hoped the z4/z3+ would improve in the camera department but that didn’t happen so. I really do hope that sony improves the camera experience and give us freaking full manual mode in the z5 or whatever its next flagship will be. So for the time being the lg g4 looks appealing, until sony produces something similar.

  • kido

    Full manual mode is not bullshit you ignorant fool. Whats bullshit is that sony a camera manufacturer cant deliver with their top smartphones. I bought this z3 compact last year because it had one of the best camera’s on a smartphone back then. However the lg g4 really showed the full capacity of what a android phone could achieve so if sony is not going to follow suit then i’m not going to lag behind with then.

  • Faisal Armand

    It was a year ago, now the award goes to LG G4.

  • Faisal Armand

    Let’s see you gain people’s interest with your “awesome qx10 shots” you have flickr account, don’t you?

  • Sadman Khan

    I’m trying to figure out which chipset they will use :/ And I have this gut feeling that one of them might be a Walkman edition phone but i guess that would be something with W

  • Alvin

    nope i’m not into that walkman thing and i don’t think one of them is walkman focused/a walkman phone. I also don’t think that will exist :)

    i just want an all-in-one phone will everything inside it is great, just don’t make camera-focused, music-focused, or one phone that is better in one functionality than the other

  • Alvin

    I knew that i’m fool, and i also knew that manual mode will be great and it’s a must, but it’s still not a reason to sell your phone, i don’t sell my phone if my phone doesn’t get manual mode.

    But everyone can do what they want, so do you. So peace out

  • Alvin

    if they still use 810, HAH, sony can’t even wish they would had a great sales with their s60/s70 thingy.. even though they had 1 gigapixel camera with imx2000 sensor, a 5.2-inch 4K display, 10000 mAh battery, already running android z, 16gb ram, all those at 3 mm thick but with that price and that processor, they’re dreaming.

    well just hope for the best then

  • Ariya SD

    “manual Focus”
    I have a Z2. Where is this? Cause I don’t see it. Sony’s manual is shit. Slightly better than their horrible “Superior” Auto mode, but still shit.

  • Lucian

    Thank you for your nice compliment of us being idiots. Yes, every xperia has manual mode which does what? you can change image size, white balance and ISO. Manual focus? really? check again.

    And how camera2 api doesn’t have anything to do with Sony software? Xperia Z3+ has manual everything, shutter speed, focus etc. and why shouldn’t we get it? I want to be able to use longer shutter speeds to capture some great night shots. I want to set manual focus for some shots.

    “crap report”? If you don’t know/care about full manual control doesn’t mean that everyone else shouldn’t care.

  • Lukas

    Thank you very much

  • Lucian

    meh, disappointed..

  • Sadman Khan

    Yeah let’s see. Why a different series of phones though? Weird :/

  • Sadman Khan

    Uh who knows man.

  • Pavlos Hadj

    Manual settings that are already there are enough. CAMERA SETTINGS ARE OK. You can change iso, focus mode, basic white balance scenes, exposure, megapixels, metering mode etc. Isn’t this enough? There are already enough manual options. Don’t be fooled.

  • Jachym Kokesh Lukes

    Manual ISO works since 4.4.whatever on custom ROMS.

  • Alvin

    yeah :D

  • Alvin

    i don’t know, weird

    maybe one for flagship and one for compact flagship?

  • Sadman Khan

    Then why would they have two? :|

  • ShinOrochiX

    Incorrect, interface is great and fast, battery life is exceptional (2 days easily-using stock Android battery saver).
    Design is good, leather back is unique and camera is awesome.

    Sorry, I like Sony as well but the truth is that the competition is better. Sony mobile’s financial status shows this clearly.

  • Brick

    Idiots are under the impression that camera2 will magically make them great photographers. In reality will just allow them to tweak some more things using third party apps that will not make that much difference in such a small sensor. Right now it’s already possible to change a the main controls on stock sony’s camera app. Also, raw creates unprocessed files that need to be processed with external software such as adobe lightroom. Those files also take up a lot of space, like 20mb per file on a 16MP snap iirc. The main thing that needs to be improved is auto mode, and according to the changelog they improved it. Has anyone made a comparison yet?

    One of the phones that always tops the charts for camera quality is the galaxy s6 which has no camera2 api support at all. Get your priorities straight.

  • Brick

    Which one are you getting in place of the z3c?

  • vov

    Really? or you have tap to focus and shoot? YES! I do not want this shit i want tap to focus and then tap to shoot to shoot!

  • vov

    Hey Sony fun boy Sh*** UP! I have Z3 6633! If i’m wrong go ahead and make a video. show us this features from you xperia Z series.

    Tap to focus (not tap to capture)
    Tap to exposure
    Auto exposure!

    I’m waiting!

  • Matt

    fast, because its new, lets see in another 6 months. Still too cluttered for me.Okay battery life is good if you use battery saving mode, hmm lets see i rarely uses that on my z3 :P

    camera is awesome , yes it is im with you there.
    build material, i prefer dust and water tight aluminium rim and glass build, rather than plastic rim+ leather.

    every device has its own plus and minus, and by all means z3 or z2 or every single sony device aren’t perfect in any way ,and by sony device i rever to my z3, and z3 only . i cant say for the other because i do not have them.
    i got g2 and galaxy s3 as reference , g2 was great but again too cluttered and slowing down after awhile

  • vov

    I think you are little kid without brain

  • KMNH

    Super disappointed that Sony don’t developed their own cameras like other OEM’s do. I reckon the new iPhone will be the one…

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Manual focus… Go to manual, settings, touch focus….
    All except shutter speed is there, and long before most phone cameras had any…
    If you use another app, yes sony should allow cam2 api controls for them to have manuals.
    But this report and responses from ignorant users are written as if sony ditched its manual abilities all together…
    So yes, many idiots…

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Seems you dont know how to use your phone camera app. Manual, settings, manual focus….ok?

  • Lucian

    I know what you mean but it still isn’t the same. With manual focus you can fine tune it. Touch focus still is basically auto focus and there are many possibilities when it can’t focus on what you want. Let’s say, grass or small objects, maybe if you want to create a cool photo of bokeh where everything else is out of focus etc.

    I know that I don’t need manual focus and shutter speed on my phone when I have a DSLR where I can do what I want, but sometimes I don’t have it with me and it would be nice to have these options, specially manual shutter up to 4 seconds (or more) for night photos. The thing that gets me mad is that Z3+ can have all of this on 5.1 but they didn’t want to give us 5.1 with manual camera. It isn’t fair if you ask me. It isn’t proper way to treat customers that gave premium money to left them out of new features in less than a year.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Now I know what you mean, a dslr camera feature. I really do not know any mobile camera app, or any smartphone camera that provides that kind of manual focus feature. Thats where background defocus app comes in on mobiles. If you do know of a phone that has it, please provide link to that specific mobile camera feature…

  • I live under impression that if I could’ve set shutter speed manually, I could’ve had some great night photos from my vacation in Portugal, this way all I have is 100s of photos using different apps from which maybe 2 photos at least slightly reproduce what I could’ve done were there the support for it.

    I also live under impression that with raw, I could’ve had some nice photos of difficult scenery, that is unfortunately almost impossible to get with Sony’s brutal post processing.

    If having worse camera with worse or same features as S6 is what Sony is aiming toward, then no surprise they will never become a top 5 manufacturer.

  • Says who? You? Oh, then it must apply to everyone, why improve it.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Em, go to gsma review sections and compare overal and crop quality of shots taken with z3+ and g4…Whilst z3+ still shots come out more sharp and color richer looking, on crop they have about the same quality in terms of detail preservation, pixel contrast, etc… depending on focus managment of course. HD video recording on g4 has a serious stability processing problem…a terrible wobble effect.

  • Willy Lin

    Actually, just search the app “manual camera compatibility” at the play store..
    You’ll realize that there’s so much reviews about the app’s incorrect detection..
    I have Z3 Compact and i had updated to 5.1.1

  • Pavlos Hadj

    I am saying this because this article presents camera to have no manual settings at all and its not true

  • Willy Lin

    This..

  • Lucian

    Full manual focus is available on Sony Xperia Z3 Plus, as far as I know also Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lumia 830 etc. There are many phone that have full manual focus.
    There is app for Android phones that allows you full manual control (if your phone has Camera2 API) called Manual Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2 If only Sony would enabled Camera2 API we would be able to use this app.

    Here is demonstration on LG G4: https://youtu.be/Nd7ogSGS2LQ (skip to 1:40)

  • vov

    Do not teach me how to shoot :) i wrote reasons why Sony camera app is crap!

    and forgot one thong also, THERE IS NO HDR mode in manual (20mp) :@ i do not need 8mp “superior auto” (superior shit!)

    Oh yes, Red color is not red it’s pinkish :)

  • Watch Android Authority’s review for less bias people According ti DXOMark Z3 takes 7th place or something in martphones when iphone 4s sometimes turned out better shots so yeah

  • Taken with Xperia Z3 one of the best cameras in smartphones LOL !

  • Iam not a fanboy in fact i hate LG UI just like you but i’ve seen other people who like it so saying UI is a disadvantage is wrong

  • Alvin

    I knew right, because i am

  • Alvin

    Yeah i have tap to focus, not tap to shoot

  • ludimilojko

    Focus mode, white balance, megapixels, metering mode … is NOT manual mod. Manual mod is setting ISO, shutter speed and aperture. Nothing more and nothing less.

  • Are you reading only titles? Poor you then.

  • Pavlos Hadj

    Sorry my mistake then. Manual settings is a generic term and its easy to be misunderstood

  • Brick

    If the shitty S3 shoots better than the Z3 then I have bad news, you are a terrible photographer, take some photography courses or read some online stuff about photography. Either that or your Z3 is badly defective.

  • Brick

    Seems like a good idea. By the way, which phone are you getting?

  • Brick

    >no exif
    >1920×1080

    Seems legit.

  • Brick

    Do you really think it would have made that much of a difference? You seem like you know something about photography, so why are you relying on a shitty phone for your important photos? And before you say that the Z3 is shitty guess what, NO PHONE OUT THERE is good enough for low light photography, they’re all shitty and produce “usable” photos at best. I’m an amateur photographer and I have an entry level DSLR, the Nikon D3300, costs around 200 bucks used, and takes photos that are insanely good compared to any phone even in the hands of a noob like me.

    The Xperia Z3 is what, the 5th or so best cameraphone out there? Do you really think the gap is that big between the 5th and the best one (the S6)? I really don’t think so. Go look at the benchmarks on DXOMark, and learn a few more things about camera lenses while you’re at it. You would have probably taken a shitty photo even with a $2000 camera.

  • Matt

    You’re right, saying it is bad just because its ugly is wrong. But let us see how the new UI pans out, if it hinders the phone performance overtime than it is truly a disadvantage

  • ludimilojko

    Exactly. A lot of people think that if they set the ISO to 200 they are shooting in manual mod. Or if they can set the shutter speed to 1 sec, that would be manual mod. Wrong. The point of manual shooting is not letting the camera determine the exposure. If the camera automatically sets any of the three parameters (ISO, aperture or shutter speed), it is NOT manual mod.
    And the worst thing is that most of those who are crying for manual mod wouldn’t know what settings to use for a given lighting conditions.

  • Fempter

    If after a few weeks Sony will not improve the camera software in Z2 and not support full manual settings, my next phone will be LG G4 or newer.

    I have bought Sony’s smartphone because of the good camera as hardware. But software is totally shit.

  • Brick

    5th best camera in a smartphone is “totally shit”? Good luck with your G4 anyway, seems like a good phone, but S6 is better camera wise

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-wins-another-blind-camera-comparison-LG-G4-is-close-second_id71751

    By the way, S6 doesn’t even support full manual or raw.

  • Brick

    Best camera phone in blind comparisons is still the Galaxy S6. It’s better than G4, iPhone 6, and everything else except maybe that old lumia with the 40Mp camera sticking out of the back like a tumor. And it doesn’t even support full manual settings or raw.

  • Fempter

    Not camera but software of camera is totally shit in Sony’s smartphones

  • s6 support full manual and raw with 3rd part apps

  • What ? i didn’t know they downscaled the photo here’s photo with full res : http://imgur.com/wX4Tdmm

  • Pascual

    Sony’s Camera for 5.1.1 is much better, HDR now is realy great, :)

  • Wait a sec i just noticed you said Z3+ has better screen than G4 well thats complete bullshit G4 has a better display

  • It might be affected by more things. Firstly, I’m “just” a student, I can’t afford to spend any money on DLSR I would use just few times a year. Secondly, I don’t like wearing anything besides wallet and phone in my pockets, I can’t stand having to take care about bags everywhere. Thirdly, I do think it would have made “that much of a difference”. Accidentaly, one of my mates had DLSR, but I didn’t have any tripod, only my gorillapod for Xperia Z2. Even though, the night photos were perfectly usable to be used as wallpaper, header or to be printed as smaller photos. Only the effect was, well, mostly missing.
    And finally, I don’t really mind comparing Xperia Z2 to other top phone cameras, I would say I am perfectly happy with the photos it produces on manual in all aspects – noise, colors, sharpness… What I am not happy about is that there is some API which is out for how long, a year plus? And Sony, which has the system most similar to vanilla Android with rather less changes and features and supports AOSP as no one other, is unable to provide such API in any of their updates. I don’t care if Samsungs or HTCs or LGs have it. I have Xperia Z2 and I would expect it to have the API already. Because as you said, otherwise I could just buy Samsung or LG and have arguably better phone with more software “features” and better camera. That’s not how Sony should do, they are the ones that starve in comparison.

  • kido

    Hehehe sorry for calling you a fool, its just that this is sony we are talking about, they have the ability to be the best camera phone maker on the market. Its just so frustrating to see them lag behind other phone manufacturers in terms of their camera capabilities.

  • kido

    Ok honestly there is no other compact android devices out there quite like the z3 compact, apart from maybe the Samsung alpha. So I am actually hoping and wishing that sony releases a z5 compact during ifa in September ?? Oh is that too early for a z5 compact?

  • kido

    Actually you are right there is no manufacturer quite like sony. Im just frustrated thats all bro… Hopefully sony releases the z5 and maybe its compact sibling soon, and you can bet your life on the fact that im going to own a z5 compact as soon as its released ;)

  • Alvin

    yup, it’s so heartbreaking to see that just 2 years ago sony leads camera in their smartphone business, and now g4 and s6 is way better than z3+’s.

  • Ariya SD

    There is no manual focus on the Z2. Only single autofocus, multi autofocus, face detection, touch focus, and object tracking. I can screen shot if you want. Unless you call touch focus “manual”? But that’s not manual at all. Maybe you should do some more research before you make fun of people like that.

  • Ariya SD

    You make fun of me for being unable to use myphone and in the end you were the one who didn’t even understand what MANUAL focus is. Try harder next time.

  • JacquelynDAsbury
  • Nikita Dvoryankin

    Or on my Galaxy S3 I have access to setting like so :shutter speed , white balance , iso up to 1600 ,AF and exposure lock. On my z3 I have access to iso up to 800. I not saying what z3 have badly camera than s3, I mean image post processing on Samsung devices better than sony’s

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Of course it does not, it only has higher resolution screen which c

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Of course it doesnt, only thing g4 screen has over z3+ screen is resolution count. Z3+ screen is way ahead in tech and performance

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    I do apologise. But then again, manual focus does what background defocus and bokeh app do, just in real time…I do not see any reason to cry over some phone not having it

  • Ariya SD

    Manual focus is nothing like what background defocus and bokeh apps do. It merely allows you to set the focus by yourself instead of leaving it to the software and hoping for it to get it right.

  • Brick

    Stop lying, there is no shutter speed on Samsung and Xperia Z3 goes up to 3200 in ISO and has a shitload more settings on top of having far better quality output.

  • How is it way better ? with source please and the black levels fall apart on my Z3 screen because of brightness i can only imagine how Z3+ will be its display is brighter than Z3 other than that G4 is better
    also my Z3 has a red spot when its black happened twice they replaced first time but it appeared again and they refused to do it also when they replaced it it created noticable backlight bleed and they refused to replace it as it was no big deal

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Manual focus IS software. Sonys camera app can have manual focus or manual anything, independant of cam2 api support…
    Manual focus can create bokeh effect but is it capable to create background defocus effect?
    I really dont find that manual option as important as for ex manual shutter speed…Sony should implement extra manual shutter speed, all important stuff is already there.

  • Ariya SD

    “Manual focus IS software.”
    I didn’t say it’s hardware.

    “Manual focus can create bokeh effect but is it capable to create background defocus effect?”
    Where do you get all this nonsense? Manual focus has absolutely NOTHING to do with bokeh. Bokeh is mainly created by using a large aperture. Which is why it’s known to be available mostly on DSLRs, because they are huge and can have large apertures. And what’s the difference between bokeh and background defocus? The result of both is that the difference between things that are in focus and things that aren’t is really apparent.

    “I really dont find that manual option as important as for ex manual
    shutter speed…Sony should implement extra manual shutter speed, all
    important stuff is already there.”
    That’s your opinion. Either way, it’s not available now, the API is already there, and they should implement it.

  • gamer324

    Yes, but most people just like to play around with photo-editing and such, and really don’t just want a picture.
    People buy sportscars when for the same money they could buy a proper race car (obviously a few years older, but still faster), but they don’t because quite simply they lack the skill to drive it, and further lack the will to attain that skill as they can have all their fun with a sportscar and then have some (relative) practicality too.
    It’s the same with any other hobby.

  • Matt

    Yes you are completely correct. But continuing your race car analogy there. People who bought sport car don’t go to their forum and try to force the manufacturer to add a free feature upgrade to match all the race car don’t they?

    Yes there are sport car in which you can find feature set that are closer to the actual race car. but that doesn’t mean the manufacturer of our race car are obliged to add the same feature for free.

    You can edit the pictures that are taken by Xperia phone -_- it’s just raw provide more flexibility for people specific photography needs

  • gamer324

    My friend you need to frequent more car forums if you think xperia fans are bad. ;-)

  • Matt

    hahaha, true that :)

    but i do not think that xperias fan are bad ,just like all fands , we are just greedy , just like literally every other fan

  • Shamoy Rahman

    Z5 camera is better than the G4 now.

  • Shamoy Rahman

    Nice WP theme. You probably have the closest thing to Windows Phone anyone has owned (assuming almost no one buys windows phones anyways).

  • Illutorium

    in 5.1.1 are be Implemented at RAW anyway. (Galaxy S6)

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