Xperia Z3 Plus owners take matters into their own hands to combat heat issues

by XB on 21st July 2015

in Problems, Xperia Z4 and Z3+ series


Xperia Z3+ Throttling_2Some Sony Xperia Z3+ owners are claiming that there is an inexpensive and quick way to get around the throttling seen in the handset. The use of the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 chipset combined with an ever-thinner chassis has meant that Sony has had to throttle performance to avoid excessive heat build-up in the Xperia Z3+. Sony hasn’t been able to completely control the situation though, with many users complaining of intensive apps force-closing if used for long periods, including the camera.

XDA member schecter7 has tried to get around this problem by using some simple kitchen foil and a case for the phone. Several layers of foil (six in total) were applied to the rear of the phone and held in place using an Xperia Z3+ case. He then ran several benchmark tests to check the relative performance drop comparing 1) the phone on its own, 2) the phone with a case and 3) the phone with foil inside the case.

The results show that the relative performance drop using foil is lower than without it. Without foil, the performance was 75% of the initial test, whilst with foil 80% of the initial performance test was maintained. Another user has chimed in claiming similar performance benefits using copper foil.

So if the Xperia Z3+ heat issues have been giving you trouble, you may want to try this DIY method to drive better performance. Do be aware that if you do try this, you will not be able to use NFC.

Throttling results – Xperia Z3+ naked

Xperia Z3+ No Case

Throttling results – Xperia Z3+ with case

Xperia Z3+ With Case

Throttling results – Xperia Z3+ with case and foil

Xperia Z3+ With Case and Foil

Foil used to drive better Xperia Z3+ performance

Xperia Z3+ Throttling_2

Via XDA.

  • Chris Mckechnie

    Well if I ever needed a reason not to buy a phone it’s this! How can Sony not figure this out on their own? Ever heard of a heat-sink? Must be a result of having an IP rated phone with a glass back as my Z1 gets super hot too.

  • Srijan Chawla

    I feel bad for the Z3+ users, i would have sold it & bought the Z3, dangling a foil on the back of the phone is not a solution, you’re paying for that “premium look & feel” & then you use covers & foil to hide it, what’s the point ??

  • asgaro

    People actually bought this device? LOL, what is wrong with them?

  • DBS

    The simple fact that this workaround even needs to exist should make Sony ashamed. I don’t know what they’re thinking but at this point the Z3+ is doing nothing but tarnishing the Z3 brand. They would be better off just issue a recall of the phone.
    The Z3+ never had a reason to exist and with all these problems, there’s only a reason to kill it with fire. Sony isn’t in a position where they can afford to have their brand diminished by these problems. It has already suffered enough with the idiotic 6 months cycles.

  • nick

    Few things Sony should consider
    1. Stop trimming phone to make it slimmer and cutting down battery capacity.
    2.use better heat dissipation and not cramp all things together(the flagship phones are not so compact inspite of your current crampness)
    3.better speaker not only louder but crisp.
    4. Separate versions for waterproof model in Aqua series, and non waterproof flagship(rival oem sales much more than this waterproof flagship )

  • ryq24

    an overprice phone that heats up. Sony mobile is really in disarray .

  • Raj Singh

    Why the fuck should you have to do that?
    The phone should be recalled.

  • Chitti- The Robot

    I have a better idea and its inexpensive. Buy thermal paste and buy a cpu fan. Glue to rear of Z3+. It worked for me. My device temp went down. As for more cooling, I’m planning to attach Liquid Cooler.

  • Alvin

    overheats, overpowered, underpeformed, overf***ed…. all in the one overpriced xperia z3+

  • Alvin

    this makes me so happy that i bought my lovely z3, even though it sometimes also gets warm. but i can’t imagine myself had a z3+ in my pocket. my crotch will have a third degree burn!

  • Alvin

    i better buy an xperia e1

  • Chitti- The Robot

    but you can’t use E1 for ironing or cooking.

  • Alvin

    these overheating things on smartphones made me think : “wow, sooner or later, our phones will have a cooler (fan) like my laptop” (with imagining a slim phone attached to a cooler that makes our phone bulky)

  • Alvin

    an iron and a pan cost cheaper than your z3+ :P

  • Chitti- The Robot

    which iron or pan comes with camera? ;)

  • Alvin

    agree with point 1,2, and 3

    but for 4, i don’t think so, that will made a lot of cost on them, and better just make like what it is now. I don’t think waterproof has anything to do with their sales, it’s just their marketing, that’s all.

    Because of that poor marketing impact, i can’t even convince my sister to use an xperia just because she wants an iphone, when we compare our camera and everything, she just use everything to make my z3 down even though my z3 is a lot better than her 5s in many ways

  • Alvin

    yeah, sony’s ‘giving up for 6 months cycle’ is a bullfu** to me

    in anytime now they’ll announce that freakin z5

  • Alvin

    aluminium foil case for z3+…

    I COULD SELL THEM SO Z3+ USERS COULD BUY IT FROM ME AND I’M GETTING RICH!

    wait, there are only thousands people who bought that thing

  • Alvin

    sony can make cameras, televisions, gaming things, movies, tv shows, music businesses, financial services, tablets, and semiconductors. but please, not a smartphone, that’ll kill you soon

  • Alvin

    you can buy a compact camera with cheaper price, like coolpix s3600, ixus 150, coolpix s32, or sony w800 for less than 150 euros, with an iron and a pan that cost, let’s say 150 euros combined, and then an xperia e1 for 100 euros.. you’ll just need to spend 400 euro than 600 (or what?) euros for z3+..

    z3+ can’t even handle what it should handle well, let’s say, we use phones for calling right? z3+ can’t even handle it right :D jk

  • Alvin

    well, i was wrong actually.. z3+ has everything i said above, z3+ is a great all in one device for your home. by that you’d get a complete houseware needs in the palm of your hands, and in your pocket

  • Alvin

    well, what i was thought before, is the cooler should be at the back of the phone. but that is good. just change the iphone picture to z3+ picture, that’ll be perfect because iphone 4 will be as cold as hell when using that where z3+ will cool down a little

  • Utsav Shah

    Actually, Sony should have addressed this issue with the use of a metal back instead of glass.

  • Alvin

    umm… no

  • Utsav Shah

    why not. metal is better at heat transfer.

  • Vuyo Ncube

    Qualcomm really fucked Sony over with a horribly designed chipset that belongs in tablets. And Sony fucked itself for not using the SD805 which delivers nearly as good GPU and ISP performance and similar memory bandwidth with a much lower TDP. Sony should have dumped the SD810 within a few trials and shifted their focus away from the desires of chipset fanboys and other things.

  • Alvin

    ohh yes it is, i just remembered why g flex 2 and m9 don’t overheat that much as what sony is, because g flex 2’s back is plastic and m9’s back is metal. that’s why their heating isn’t as bad as sony’s.

    yeah, if only they use metal back..

  • Alvin

    i don’t know what they’re thinking too. why do they use SD810? maybe qualcomm convinced sony that the overheating thing is solved but the thing is that, it is still there?

    805 is better than 810 in many many ways more than 810’s benefit than 805

  • Sadman Khan

    Sony got bashed for using S801 while S805 was available on the Z3. Maybe that’s why they decided to use the latest chipset. But too bad, it backfired

  • Vuyo Ncube

    Sony probably thought shoving more cores in a smartphone was more attractive to customers than sustained CPU performance and low TDP. Qualcomm clearly had no experience with ARM’s big.LITTLE microarchitecture and now obsolete Cortex A57s. Samsung has practically mastered octacore processors and Mongoose is gonna tear shit up. Apple has practically mastered 64 bit mobile computing and the A9 will scare small laptops. Complacency has a price. Qualcomm is under a lot more pressure now into next year than when they designed Krait.

  • Alvin

    yup those all are what came out of my mind. s810 release feels like just half or even a quarter baked, they’re just in a rush because of tight competitions

  • Alvin

    yeah, they got f***** real hard

  • Niels d. G.

    go away timel

  • Alvin

    yeah i’m timel, why?
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    (well where’s timel, for real, timel, i need you to explain everything to these fanboys again)

  • Sadman Khan

    Life is sad. Their smartphone business is declining at an alarming rate :(

  • Alvin

    but if sony really wants to make a great smartphones that will boost their businesses, i’ll support them till 100%, they need to improve a lot you all know?, they need to start from 0, especially for their marketing team, they have a lot of work to do

  • Alvin

    back off, fanboys, i’m being honest here and you just can’t understand my words

  • Sadman Khan

    We need Kryo to succeed Krait. And successfully

  • Svnjay

    It must be Sony’s fault that Snapdragon made a overheating chip. I think they should’ve used the 808 or 805 but Qualcomm has stalled for the year.

  • Svnjay

    Is that Noctua?

  • Sadman Khan

    It’s Sony’s fault for using it. Stability matters. S805 or heck even S808 would have worked :|

  • Ulysses Grant

    What kind of a reply is this? People did not know there was an issue and so did Sony. It was Qualcomm’s 810 chip issue and this is why it gets warmer. I wish people like you would read more before making such an iD0itic comment. No offense but it was stupid. I am sure you know that….

  • Ulysses Grant

    Hope the 5.1.1 will addressed this issue.

  • omg_wtf_afk_brb

    it’s hardware, not software issue, it can’t be fixed simply by just updating your OS…

  • Ulysses Grant

    Damn so its that Qualcomm issue then?

  • Ulysses Grant

    Could Sony sue or ask Qualcomm to give them some sort of compensation over lost sales? I mean Sony is heading downhill..what’s the worst thing can happen? Man… I hope Z5 will be awesome. I am still with Z2 and i love it.

  • Brick

    Have they considered the fact that it’s summer? Could that have anything to do with higher temperatures in the device? Facepalm… The exact same thing happens on all my phones, Z3, Galaxy S4, Xperia S, etc.

  • Sadman Khan

    5.1.1 is rolling out for Z3 Compact D5803

  • omg_wtf_afk_brb

    Mostly, yes.

  • Sadman Khan

    And it’s here. Refer to my post below in the comments. Rolling now for D5803 Z3C. Dunno about others

  • Claudiu

    LOL!
    First of all, the internet was packed with topics and discussions about the heat issues of the 810, like the reason why Samsung changed chipset, no way you could have missed that if you’re interested enough in technology to also know what throttling is and to notice it on a phone.
    Second, even if you bought it without knowing beforehand about the heat issues, there’s no reason not to return it or not harass the repair center until they provide a functional device or refund you.
    So yes, it seems crazy that people bought or still use a flagship device (with a flagship price) on the back of which you have to stick aluminum foil so you won’t lose TOO MUCH performance and/or be able to actually use the device.

  • David Moslehi

    Guys… Can somebody tell me why my device doesn’t have the overheating issue anymore after the system update? Are there different builds out there!?
    Xperia Z3+ dual 6533 here.

  • Ulysses Grant

    Well..if u were to ask me, I would not do what this guy did. I would just spam Sony will phone calls and I am sure they will eventually give up and return my money back! I have z2 and it just fine.. Hope they fix this damn thing with Z5.

  • Ulysses Grant

    Unless Z3+ is just a filler to their 6 months promise while working on Z5 with different a chipset.

  • Rodrigo Ogasawara

    Sony used a revised SD810,named MSM8994-v2.1,Quallcomm said that this version would fix the overheat problem and…if that’s true,well,they lied…

  • Rikimaru Azuma

    I saw many people that complain about overheating, Personaly I can record 8 minutes in 4k under sunshin at 35 degree. The phone is hot but only the part where CPU is located. And it not burning.
    And the phone cool down fast.

    My old HTC one X is even more hot it’s up to 77 Celsius and drain the battery.

    I do not have this problem on my Z3+.

  • Vasilis K.

    Let’s face it. CPUs have reached their limits, at least in terms of their frequencies (like pc cpus did few years ago). For me the Snap 800 is the best yet from this perspective. They have to find some other way to improve performance and what they try now is increasing the cores: 6, 8, 10, 1000! They’re still experimenting though and things are a little bit f@cked up!
    So, I stick with my lovely Z1 Compact! No throttling, no overheating, and still supported by Sony! I’d suggest you do the same. Don’t waste your money!

  • nfs2010

    By the way, XB, Copper foil would lead to even better cooling performance. Please check out my post (#3) on the XDA thread :P

  • Vasilis K.

    You know, there’s a new cooking app in Play! It’s a simple one, installable only on devices with Snap 810 and above! It just uses the cpu to the most, in full frequency and you can use the back of the phone for baking! And if you’re rooted you can even overclock the cpu through it and heat your whole f@cking home!!! That’s awsome!!!

  • Sam Vermilion

    Nothing. I knew about the heat issue and I bought it for 700$ .. And guess what? I haven’t been in a situation where overheating was a problem to me. I always take pictures, snapchat, use LTE and play youtube music in car while its 50°C outside and no probs. The camera does force close but after Im already done with taking my picture .. I’m not defending Sony nor Qualcomm, they’re at fault here but I don’t like the way people think it’s a really so very damn serious problem (I had Z2 before)

  • perfectlyreasonabletoo

    Are you seriously arguing about whether metal has better thermal dissipation than glass or plastic?

  • perfectlyreasonabletoo

    A cooler isn’t necessary, but a small copper or aluminum heat spreader with thin fins stretching an inch or two each each direction would probably be very helpful for increasing how long a SoC can run at full speed before it needs to throttle.

    Ideally a SoC should have excellent short burst performance (30-60 seconds, to minimize app loading time and such) with good sustained performance after it needs to throttle. This is what previous Snapdragon chips delivered. Nexus 4 -> Nexus 5 had this sort of improvement despite the display moving from 720p to 1080p and the associated increase in complexity.

    SD810 was a mess, it didn’t deliver this and gets hotter than previous chips despite failing to. Hopefully 820 will put things back on the right course.

  • Abhinav Tella

    There sholud be an option for the fan to blow the warm air in your face, good for winter lol.

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  • BruceLeeRoyJenkins

    Blame Qualcomm

  • Raj Singh

    I do. But I blame Sony, too. They knew but had to go with the 810 because it wouldn’t be perceived as holding up to the competition if they went with anything less.

  • nfs2010

    Most idiots (reviewers) are beating the dead horse (fw version .14 that got replaced 0.2 x on June 19th BEFORE the phone was even released across the world. They’re doing it on purpose to make few pennies from a certain company & the morons at Sony still shipped the phone with the old fw on to make things worse.

    GSMarena reviewed the older fw on purpose a week after the .2x release & then posted another news two weeks after the fw release. It was quite funny for a web site that pastes everything in a matter of seconds.

    http://www.gsmarena.com/update_for_sony_xperia_z3_promises_to_fix_overheating_issues-news-12902.php

  • jag

    Well it is actually a good device. It is snappy and well rounded one.
    I just hope they resolve the heating issue of the camera app in the z3+! It just doesn’t make sense why the camera heats up even though you are only using the manual or auto mode and not 4K or AR modes!!! It is so frustrating sometimes when the camera app closes when you are taking pictures. Great quality though but the heating sucks. But it is not that hot IMHO. People just exaggerated the hot and burning thing… did they even have the phone??? Funny people… they complain and comment even though they don’t use the phone and base their thoughts in a blog or review sites.

  • Alvin

    nope

  • Alvin

    the rate is like a plane crash

  • betatesterz

    Wow, that tempreature… Did not realised it hits up to 50+

    On a side note, I realised from my Z3 that the heat dissipates VERY quickly when putting your phone’s back against a glass surface for like 1-2 seconds.

    Plausable glass heatsink?

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  • gamer324

    It’s a great phone;
    gives better battery life than all other 2015 android flagships,
    gpu performance is out of the park (75% of 50 fps on-screen is still 37.5 fps; wayyyyy higher than the s6 ever does),
    camera still kicks s6 to the curb in low-light, g4 is better but its gpu performance is worse than s6 on QHD,
    only 2015 flagship with proper digital noise-cancellation,
    Only 2015 flagship with IP65/68 certification.

    And if you don’t think s6 throttles (While you didn’t point out any phone, the comparison about s810 has always been versus the Exynos 7422), then read the varying scores here
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/s6-antutu-scores-t3087686/page6

    They vary from 60k to 70k on unmodded s6 devices.

    The z3+ scores on the latest firmware vary between 47k to 55ishk. And you won’t hit a sub- 50k score on repeated runs.

    As for the camera app overheating on some z3+, that’s probably just a software bug, like the 4k and AR modes on z2 4.4.2.

  • gamer324

    Yes it is, but conversely, metal is thicker than glass for the same rigidity, which would leave lesser space for the internals, and let’s not forget how scratch-prone metal backs are. That’s why I love the glass backs of the z series, they’re pretty much scratchproof for me.

  • gamer324

    It’s the same sensor as the z3, and taking pictures isn’t a ‘heavy duty’ cpu task, I am quite certain Sony will address this issue with an update, just like they did for 4k and AR on the z2.

  • Raj Singh

    I heard the Z3 runs better than the Z3+.

  • Utsav Shah

    metal needs to be thicker for the same rigidity? are you sure?
    have you ever seen iphone 6 ‘s back. it’s slimmer than the glass panel of Z series. and about being scratch resistant, I used my Xperia Ion for 4 years without any scratches and I barely used a case.

  • Most people don’t know that they have to restart their smartphone at least once a day to have the cache memory cleared to then prevent apps being force closed …

    There is also an option at SETTINGS – Power Management – Stamina Mode – Extended Use > to make sure your device will last you for two days without crashes and overheating…

    Thirdly, the kitchen foil is a joke, no one can be stupid enough to try it :))

  • No it doesn’t kick S6 in low light i’ve done a comparsion myself with Z3 and my friend’s S6 and S6 blew it away and btw Z3 and Z3+ cameras aren’t changed alot so it would only make a minor difference

  • HAWX

    XD

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  • Battal Aljadei

    Qualcomm sold the crap to Sony & Sony’s Selling it to it’s costumers and you still want to blame Qualcomm ?
    Sony is not a virgin fanboy, and we all know it :)

  • Lara Croft

    What kind of reply is this? This was well known issue with the 810. That’s why Samsung went there own chip. That’s why others have opted for the 805. No offense but do a little (just a little) research before making idiotic comments. Doesn’t feel good does it.

  • Lara Croft

    Both are at fault. Don’t be a blind fanboy and try to white knight Sony here. They should’ve gone with the 805. The problems with the 810 were well known and still they went ahead with it.

  • Lara Croft

    Sony should’ve gone with the 805. I think it’s about time Sony invested in making there own custom chipsets. That way, they don’t have rely on others. I mean Sony already makes the best camera lens out there.

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  • Ulysses Grant

    So you were saying that my comment is more idiotic than the person that I replied to? It was known to be a problem but thats when Sony already made the phone… of course, to their stupidity, they still released the phone. Samsung always been making their own Exynos chipset so there is nothing new with that.

    By the way, i don’t give a shit on what you think… If you are trying to get smarter with me then try harder.

    Oh yeah. its their not there.

  • Jake Lew

    Still better than s6 which reach 70+ degree celcius

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  • Arun kumar

    I just want everyone who didn’t believe that 810 overheats and throttles to regret what they said and bought.

  • BruceLeeRoyJenkins

    Where in those two words did I “white Knight” Sony. Sony obviously should’ve gone with the 808 and Qualcomm should’ve made a decent chip. But in the end Sony fucked up by making the Z3+. If they had just kept the Z4 in Japan then they would only have to worry about handsets in Japan, and not this huge fucking flop of a flagship they are trying to push globally

  • BruceLeeRoyJenkins

    Dafuq does that last sentence even mean.

    The Z3+ and Z4 shouldn’t even exist this stupid 6 month cycle should be only in Japan or not exists at all. Only people it hurts is the Xperia consumers and Sony.

  • BruceLeeRoyJenkins

    Sony should’ve learned that this 6 month cycle brings nothing but ridicule. There has never been a huge advantage each flagship in the 6 months has had over its predecessor.

  • Lara Croft

    Hit a nerve did I fanboy? Yes your comment is more idiotic than the other persons. Because u just admitted to what he was trying to say.

  • Raj Singh

    I don’t care about the S6 though I respect its place in the battle for supremacy…

  • Ulysses Grant

    Not really.. i don’t own a Z3+ so I don’t give a sh1t. Keep dreaming that you hit a nerve on me.

    So please keep trying… I will guarantee you that you won’t win. Besides, you are trying to level with me so if you think my comments are idiotic then yours too.

  • Raj Singh

    I don’t give a shit about the S6. It’s a cool phone, too, but not something I’m interested in purchasing. I do want a new Sony phone to update my Z Ultra but I don’t like how the 810 was designed with ARM Cortex CPU cores. I’ll wait for the 820 that’s built on the 64-bit Kyro architecture and is rumored to use the 14nm manufacturing process.

    I can’t wait to see the Sony S70.

  • Lara Croft

    I don’t think, I know it. Because if what u say was true, then u wouldn’t have bothered to reply. But here u are.

  • Brick

    It’s called throttling and every phone does that. The tinfoil thing was some guy’s experiment on XDA because he had like 40C temperatures in his texas home, he said he reads similar results on his S6. I guess they’ll have to recall every single smartphone out there or just put fan and heatsink on all of them so they don’t throttle anymore.

  • Raj Singh

    I don’t give a shit about the S6. It doesn’t even use the 810 because Samsung knew there were issues with it. Every OEM that ships a phone with the 810 should replace it with a different processor. Qualcomm screwed the pooch on this one. It’s a clusterfu k but I suppose the 820 should remedy these issues. Hopefully, Qualcomm learns from its mistakes.

    “Chips throttle, but the 810 throttles more than most, and it’s severe enough that the 810 is actually slower than the 801 or 805 in some CPU-bound tasks over the long haul. The Exynos 7 Octa, which has similar specs on paper, is much better in practice.”

    “At this point, Qualcomm has implied to us several times that its use of ARM Cortex CPU cores was a stopgap measure—Apple got the 64-bit A7 chip to market around a year before anyone expected it to. Chips are designed over a period of two or three years, so using the ready-made Cortex cores were the quickest way to get a 64-bit response to market.”

  • Sergei Garcia

    Sadly, I’ve heard more bad news about Sony phones more than any other brand. I already sold my Z1 after returning it 3 times because of display issues (Thanks for using recycled Z screens Sony). They may have the best performance, hardware and even stock like software, but they are making the few customers leave with their hardware issues and shitty customer care unwilling to fix the issues they caused.

  • Sergei Garcia

    As an ex-Z1 user, fuck their glass backs…returned my device after heating fucked up the display 3 times and in the end i just sold the phone and got myself a Moto X. I loved the hardware, camera and near stock software, but heat really kills the device, specially when it’s built of aluminium and glass. So yeah, I think Sony’s heating issues are pretty damm serious.

  • Sergei Garcia

    As an ex-Z1 user, fuck Sony. After returning my device 3 times because of display issues made worse by heating issues thanks to the glass back and living in a hot place, all I can say is they deserve it. Sadly…I’m really looking forward to getting a Sony device after they fix all their heating and build quality issues.

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  • Lara Croft

    My bad, I apologize.

  • Smuti

    Well the only thing that overheats more then Burndragon is crapvidia. I burned myself with a tegra device, never again.

  • Smuti

    Well Sony is the big idiot here. Tbh the SD805 should already be present in the Z3.

  • Peter H

    I’ve had a Z and a Z2.

    Still own both. Haven’t had a single screen or back crack in the entire time I’ve had them (and I got them when they first came out) despite being dropped time and time again.

    They have been by far the most durable and reliable phones I’ve owned since the old Nokia 5110 days.

    I have no idea what people do to their phones to cause them to crack.

  • Peter H

    I know about the issues now, and I’m still considering the Z3+.

    i don’t play games so I don’t really care about throttling – fact is I’ve owned numerous phones in the past, and the Xperia’s have been by far the most durable and most dependable.

    Also aside from the LG G4, every other flagship on the market has at least as many issues as the Z3+ does:

    S6 – memory management issues, poor screen (IMHO), no expandable memory, etc

    M9 – same Snapdragon 810 issues as Z3+

    iPhone – IOS (which is a problem in itself)

    The only flagship I’d consider over the Z3+ is the G4 – every other phone at the moment is a disaster.

  • Peter H

    Yeah, I loved my old HTC One M7…until I dropped it a few times.

    Chips and dings all over it. Looked like a beat up used car by the time I sold it, and I hadn’t even dropped it that many times.

    My Z and Z2, years later, still look almost brand new.

  • Paul

    My Xperia Z2 heats up like craaaaaazy! When I use the camera, Pinterest, Vine, and especially draw on Snapchat. I used to just rinse the phone under cold water, but the glass is cracked and it’s not waterproof anymore. So now I put it in the refrigerator for a few minutes.

  • gamer324

    Yes I am sure, rigidity is a measurable quantity, and metal is softer than glass, the iphone 6 is crazy thin, yes, but it isn’t as rigid as any Z flagship; consider this, iphone 6es bend under sufficient pressure, glass breaks because it is more rigid .

  • Lisselot Diaz

    It IS a very serious problem. The camera shuts when you are filming a video, after just a few minutes… that is a serious problem for an expensive phone. I’ve returned it 2 times thinking it was that one devide that had the problem, but all 3 phones (the original bought and the 2 times returned) were the same problem.

    It’s such an awesome smartphone, I really love it more than any other phone I’ve had my hands on… but it’s imporsible to record a simple video so what good is the rest for?

  • Lisselot Diaz

    That’s correct. It’s not that hot as to get people burned!
    But it totally sucks that the camera app keeps closing when you take pics and film a video. I can only record 2 or 3 mins, then it crashes due to overheating… I had Sony change my phone but again the same :(
    I am so dissapointed because filming videos is so important to me and I can not do it.

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