Sony Mobile confirms Android 7.0 Nougat plans; Xperia Z2 and Z3 range not included

by XB on 23rd August 2016

in Android, Featured Content, Firmware, Sony Tablet, Xperia X series, Xperia Z4 and Z3+ series, Xperia Z5 series

android-nougatSony Mobile has today confirmed Android 7.0 Nougat plans for its Xperia devices. The company says that most recent Xperia devices will receive Android 7.0 Nougat including the Xperia Z3+/Z4, the Z5 family and all of the Xperia X family.

Unfortunately, it’s perhaps not surprising to learn that the Xperia Z2 and Xperia Z3 range will no longer be supported. Sony has given any indication on when these devices will see Android Nougat, however we’ll keep you posted as soon as we hear any news.

Sony Mobile will make Android 7.0 Nougat available for the following devices:

– Xperia Z3+
– Xperia Z4 Tablet
– Xperia Z5
– Xperia Z5 Compact
– Xperia Z5 Premium
– Xperia X
– Xperia XA
– Xperia XA Ultra
– Xperia X Performance

Thanks Clarence, Diogo, Heung and Vicky!

  • Too bad the Z3 series won’t be officially receiving Nougat since they’ve been doing so much testing with the beta program for Android N.

  • Mike Gonzalez

    it’s indeed surprising the Z3 is left out after almost 2 years… original Xperia Z went from 4.1 to 5.1 not skipping 1 single update, so please, don’t try to defend Sony in this case cuz it’s silly

  • Abdul Ghani

    rip the dream z3 users

  • Abdul Ghani

    time to sell z3

  • Whats Even bew in Android N thats not in M?
    Im currently on latest version of M, and i can clearly state, Kitkat 4.4, was the best of em ALL!!!

  • Astaine Akash

    ohh cooll Xperia Z5 included. Happy for that ^_^

  • Abdul Ghani

    this quote from sony We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our devices as possible, as quickly as we can hahahahah QUICKLY ahahahahahah

  • Mariano Golluscio

    What a pity! Bye bye Z3…

  • tzortziskon

    Why not Xperia M5 ? :(

  • Aldo Pucci

    Pity the best ever xperia device won’t receive the N

  • Abdul Ghani

    make petition z3 users :P

  • Kariko

    not surprised, guessed it

  • Dilesh Perera

    damn Sony :(

  • SM

    So, finally, here is the end of the tenure of entire Z series (except z3+ & z5). though not complaining. Sony has done a good job regarding software support for a longer period than the other manufacturers in case of its premium Z series.

  • Rizaldi Tri Yanuar

    Well, they did not say that those are the only phones that get updated to Android Nougat and they also said that they’ve been working hard to bring this major update to “as many of our devices as possible.” So there’s still a chance for Xperia Z3 and other 2014 Xperia lines to get Nougat update.

  • Since it is the first time that Sony will update few smartphones, it may be faster …

  • Abdul Ghani

    you guys can spam official sony page with angry z3 comments lol

  • SM

    does it comes to all the z5 devices? asking because I’ve read the main article & there it’s stated that z5, z5 compact n z5 premium? What about z5 dual?

  • dareczq


  • Shehab Skull

    How will not Z3 get it although it had tasted the beta version ? ._.

  • Gianmarco Ancillotti

    What is the best firmware for sony xperia z3? the 4.4.4., 5.1.1. or 6.0.1.?

  • rzero21

    as long as they find a way to bring back the TRUE Stamina Mode….

  • KarFar

    hahaha troll sony

  • KarFar
  • The_Newtype

    Like many posting here, I still have a Z3 in my possession. Though I’m a little surprised Sony has chosen not update Z2/Z3 devices to 7.0, I still believe they have done a pretty good job supporting these devices.

    As long as Sony continues to release security updates (which they are already behind in doing), I don’t believe Z2/Z3 owners should feel like they’ve been given a raw deal.

  • KarFar
  • Hector de Lira

    My xperia c4 not yet updated MM :/

  • KzX

    Z5 dual is one of Z5’s variant, Z5 got it, Z5 dual got it too.

  • KzX

    N’s doze mode is pretty similar to Stamina mode.

  • GrinigGammalGubbe

    No update for Z2 i can understand
    no update for Z3 makes me dissapointed.

  • I saw it coming, but cannot say I’m not sad about it. MM has good stuff but it’s a battery eater in my Z3. I guess I’ll keep it or around 6 months more and then I’ll change it; in the meantime I don’t know if to downgrade it to KK, since Stamina is a good feature (Was hoping Nougat changed that in my Z3, not anymore). I hope Sony has a good phone when I’m about to change this one, I like Sony, more than the rest, but I also like LG. Well, time will tell.


    bye Nougat *says my Z3*

  • rzero21

    As good or better than Sony’s Stamina Mode? Similar isn’t necessarily a good thing.

  • Nexus/iOS here I come.

  • Dexter Moregan

    I though no device can upgrade to Android 7.0 except the devices that come with it from the start because of the difference in system partition between 6.0 and 7.0

  • (C):stem


    All of you, complainers. Realize how ridiculous you look.

  • (C):stem

    if you’re gonna switch and get a Nexus or an iPhone, means you’ll spend again. Would be the same as getting a new Xperia device?

  • KarFar

    Z2/Z3 did get 2 major updates just like nexus 5 (it won’t get nougat) so what’s the advantage of nexus over sony?

    PS: Nexus 5X owner.

  • David Hvatov


  • twm

    As the actual update is still far away, then I can see myself upgrading to Z5 next year. Lets send the legendary Z3 to retirement with the current stable and fast software. It is the whole embarrassing X lineup that needs to be forgotten soon.

  • Yeah but battery on MM sucks :

  • Kevin Pang

    Oh no, I could have really used the multi window feature on my Z3 tablet compact :(. And the custom ROM development on XDA of this device is pretty non existent, no way I want it die like this.

  • iia3ezu

    Xperia = under specced and overpriced, and bundled with crapware, some of which are from a third party developer e.g. MobiSystems.

    If you’re spending, spend wisely.

  • David Hvatov

    Don’t care. There’s nothing special in this 7.0 Nougat. 6.0.1 works good for me. Can’t find anything better than Z2 for me. Especially that sexy design Z2 has.

  • jonoave

    I’m honestly surprised, I thought Z3 would be the last legacy device to get Nougat. After all, they’ve been dropping support for each consecutive older devices.

    Oh well, I’m still keeping my Z3 for a while longer. Not sure I’ll get another phone next year, or if it will still be a Sony.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    It’s pretty obvious that we are not getting 7.0 for Z2/3.
    I remember this guy was telling me how Z3 will get 7.0 but deep down we all know that it’s not.
    I am really happy with MM on my Z3 right now. Very snappy, Not complaining if Sony’s not going to update. I will happily buy the next true FLAGSHIP device if it’s really promising but not something like X series.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    This is what happened with Z1 also. So it’s not big news anymore. :D

  • (C):stem

    Sir, you’re hating without knowing the facts. I come from a Nexus 6p, which is an impressive device, only problem is that it’s too big for me so I’ve swtiched to a Xperia X. The phone does the job and is as fast as the Nexus, I don’t miss my Nexus at all, well, maybe the fact I could try custom ROMs easier than in other devices. So first, make sure you know what you’re talking about. And just for the records: The Xperia X was cheaper than the Nexus 6P.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Indeed Z3 is amazing. I am so worried about upgrading since Sony’s failing to give me a true flagship, I honestly don’t care about the camera but I really need solid battery life and Z2 delivered me that and now Z3 is delivering amazing results.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    But they are THE SAME,how people put away the Z2 like if it’s a mid smartphone.

  • GregLu

    Sorry to say but my Z5c is not as perfomant as my old Z3c regarding this :(

  • Geno

    I have to say I just switched from the z3 to the x performance international and am pressed with the speed and fingerprint scanner. I saw the writing on the wall for the Z3.

  • Damn but even iOS is getting Nougat ..

  • Alexander Hermans

    And meanwhile I’m still waiting for 6.0 on my Z2

  • AA

    I’ll probably be using my Z3C for another year or until there’s another flagship compact released from Sony. I do hope to get security updates on Z3c though.

    Btw the mobile version of this blog sucks big time. Speed is slower than full site. It’s a joke.

  • Don Smith

    Not the Z3 :(

  • Talos the Robot

    Time to root Z3.

  • Devil

    Xperia M5 isn’t getting Nougat that’s sucks no wonder why Sony is such a useless company when it comes to mobile

  • Krishna Sandeep

    I was wondering still how long i see my Z3+ heated the statement what Sony has provided has just made the phone get cooler :)

  • Devil

    I wish Sony mobile will shut down

  • Devil

    Buying Sony mobile is total waste of money

  • Sampahio Damaceno

    What about my Xperia Arc S?

  • Devil

    M5 have better processor then XA and XA ultra but still M5 isn’t getting Nougat well done Sony

  • The One

    Nothing beats 4.4.4’s battery life, but the additional features and eye candy of 5.1.1. make up for it and the battery life is a very close 2nd place. 6.0.1 is simply terrible. Buggy and poor battery life.

  • virgil

    Asscracks :( poor z2 tablet
    I’ll port the files when released.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    What about my W580 slider?

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    I expected this would be the end of the road for my trusty Z3TC and to be honest, I’m fine with that.
    It’s my favourite device ever, but at 2 years old, it’s about ready for an upgrade anyway. Now, if Sony would just release a new flagship Ultra Smartphone/Tablet Compact this fall…

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    I suspect the Preview program is WHY the Z3 series isn’t getting 7.0
    Obviously they have the OS working in a usable manner on the hardware, but I’d wager it’s not meeting expectations.

  • Squirtle 1

    ” Its subsidiary, Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. (QTI), has announced support for Vulkan™ starting with the Adreno 530 GPU in the Snapdragon 820 processor.”
    Maybe thats why Z3 dont get it.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Multi-Window would be nice for the Z3TC, as would Doze 2.0 as battery on 6.0 is less good than 5.1, but to be honest I’d really like a hardware upgrade instead of a software upgrade at this point.
    Same basic device, size, etc, but new SoC, 4GB RAM, 32GB (minimum) of storage and a non-crippled SD slot. Basically a refresh.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Doze 1.0 is like the special needs version of Stamina, sorry to say.
    Nougat has Doze 2.0 though, which should be significantly better.

  • azzido

    STOP crying.

    Xperia Z3 was released in September 2013 = 2 years ago.
    Considering Android 7 Sony will be offering at the end of this year / beginning of 2017 it is not a surprise Z3 is not included. Sony is supporting its flagship devices up to 2 years which is a good result in Android world. Be happy with 6.0 that you received.

    + it is not about the hardware but about the Release Date of the device.

    Thank you Sony for long term support.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Agreed. I love using 6.0 on my Z3TC, but crashes are WAYYYYY more common than 5.1 and the battery o. 4.4 was phenomenal!

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    I suspect the beta isn’t meeting Sony’s expectations and they don’t want to release bad software. Every upgrade since launch has been slower and with worse battery life.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Actually the discussion here isn’t too bad. Check out the source page at Sony to see serious whining, lol.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Since Sony already has beta previews for the Z3, I doubt it.

  • Nicosea

    OK, Android 7.0 Nougat plans confirmed… Buy when?! No deadline or dates have been mentioned…
    And we are still waiting August security patch for Android 6… The Z5 compact (and many other models) still stuck at April patch :-(

  • Vinicius Araujo

    Too bad 2015 devices like the M4/M5/C4/C5 were forgotten. :/

    Xperia E5 is forgotten too, hahaha!

  • i was thinking the same

  • HAWX

    Yeah but the problem is neXus 5 released on October 2013 where as Z2 released on April 2014. Xperia Z2 is almost a half year ahead than the neXus 5. But more important thing is how would be the last built they’ll push. The last firmaware Z and Z1 still has the major battery drain bug which Sony haven’t acknowlerged eventough there were 500+ comments about that problem on official Sony Xperia forum(which was record at that time.) No need to talk about whether Z3 should get or not.

  • DBS

    The Z3 line was released in September 2014. LESS than 2 years ago.

  • jamie evans

    Z3 Compact is the best Xperia phone ever made unless Sony introduces a better device at IFA2016…

  • WilliamTell13

    I already bought a Nexus 5X 2 months ago. I couldn’t handle my Z1S being stuck on 5.0.2 anymore. I’m loving already being on Nougat. :)

  • HAWX

    X has a really good form and design than most phones in my opinion but for example it has the exact same price as LG G5 in my country. So thats really something to think about.

  • mountain

    Z3+ isn’t bad after mm update, much to my suprise. It is as good as Z5, or even better, abeit the fingerprint sensor. It is much better in terms of size. I would recommend it over Z5 any day.

    Z5 compact is much hotter than Z3+ if you ask me

  • HAWX

    Dude the last Lollipop updates had serious battery drain. The phone is unsusable under medium usage. It gives you under 1 hour of secreen on time which is beyond terrible. The last good firmware was 4.3 (causes random reboot on most batches) and 4.2.2 with little battery drain. Check out official Sony forum and XDA If you don’t believe me.

    Legit Xperia Z heavy user since 2013 February. Hope they don’t do that mistake to Z2/3 as well.

  • Nav

    Yeah,ok but do u know sony there are certsin company out there which might be giving 7 even to their mid ranges but u even havnt included z series woah!

  • Nav

    And whats d logic u r giving out for XA! Lol why not for c5,M5 c4 m4

  • Tibor Hornyák

    DUDES! only 64 bit pones are getting N.

    dont’t u see?

  • Tibor Hornyák

    again. can u see 32 bit SoC built phone with nugat ?


  • cristopher gomez mora

    I think a complete mockery of Sony not to update the Xperia Z3, then what they used in the beta program is stupid and the truth is that the Z3 is still much better than the Z5 and the X range and beyond that is a phone that will only serve two years out (in September 2014), the truth’m loyal user of the brand but today it takes me a great disappointment by Sony, more respect Sony by users who for us you eat and they have what they would have if no one starved.

  • mugglearchitect

    But it will be more than that once the update is ready for release….

  • Amirul Hakkim

    Sony usually release official firmware with New Android update when the next Android beta release, based on my observation, i think they will release when android o beta come out, I might wrong..

  • Cryio

    Seems ironic really.

  • Cryio

    “I suspect the Preview program is WHY the Z3 series isn’t getting 7.0”

    Nah. SD801 can handle 7 like a champ. Except Cyanogen to do the heavy lifting if Sony won’t.

  • Bennder

    You don’t know what you talking about. Z3/2 series is a little older and there is a lot of newer phones that sony want bring to newest android build. That require a lot of time and money. That’s the main reason why Z3/2 series will not get android N. As you can see z3 work very well on android N developer preview.

  • Cryio

    Snapdragon S4 Pro, quad core 1.7 GHz + Adreno 320.

    If only the first few Windows Phone 8 phones, which launched in the same time frame, had the same awesome specs as the first Z. They were limited to S4 Plus, which were dual core 1.5 + Adreno 225

  • John Zakaria

    I am a ZR owner and can’t see anything of that 4.4.2 had a rough start, 5.0 and 5.1 were stable

  • Robcartoon

    I still love my Z2,its always sharp and fast,has never dissapointed even after all the updates. Too bad marshmallow will be the last update. Can do nothing,wish that the company was my fathers I would have convinced him to think about the other models like the M5,C5 our Z2 ofcourse. I Feel sorry for Z3 owners too. I was expecting them to be on the update list since they highlited the device so much.Anyway,Sony is still the best for me. Will be upgrading to the X series soon/mayb/if my pocket allows/God willing. Sony,I believe what you make.

  • RockStar2005

    Then just keep your Z3. I LOVED my Z3…… I also LOVE my X Performance, but I also care A LOT about camera too, and the camera (in Superior Auto) on the X Perf is superior to not only the Z3’s (even the Z3 in Manual Mode) but ALSO the S7. I’ve had ALL 3 phones, so I know I’m right. It’s nice to FINALLY see Sony beat out Samsung in the camera dept. lol :-D! The S7 oversaturates colors a bit much so not as color accurate as the X Perf. The HTC 10 is great too for color accuracy but doesn’t offer the DETAIL that the S7 and X Perf does, at least when zooming into pics with words on them.

    But I’d be lying if I said the X Perf had a better battery life than the Z3. I used 360 Hibernation Master when I had my Z3 (F Stamina Mode…….it’s good now on the X Perf since they fixed it, but NOT on ANY of the Z phones!). It was like Stamina Mode but BETTER b/c it didn’t wait 15 minutes to kick in after the screen turned off like SM does. Get it off Google Play Store and enjoy! It doesn’t work on the X series phones though for some weird reason unfortunately. I wish it did. Maybe one day.

    Hope that helps!

  • Bashar Shehab

    No it can’t. Google dropped SD801 support with 7.0.

  • Bashar Shehab

    Android 7.0 now includes Vulkan’s drivers support which is not available for SD801 chipset. And the beta proved that. Even Concept Software isn’t getting the update because of that.

  • Bashar Shehab

    On paper, yes. In real life, absolutely NO.

  • Conan

    look. one on hand, this is totally understandable. the z3 is approaching end-of-life, and i doubt anyone in the know was seriously betting on an official z3 nougat release. on the other hand, with device specs plateauing like they have been in recent years (xda wrote a great article on this a few months back), the two year update window is starting to feel a bit ridiculous. from a development point of view, what does, say, the x performance have that the z3 doesn’t? not a lot. SO we’re getting to the point where, in the absence of significant leaps in specs, software updates become our main motivator to purchase new devices. we’re no longer chasing the latest tech, rather we’re at the mercy of OEMs’ development resources.

    i’ll tell you this: the z3 is a great device that, spec-wise, could last me another two or three years. so am i going to upgrade to experience the wonders of the nougat changelog??


  • Cryio

    And why would you say that? The only way SD801 wouldn’t be supported was if Android 7 was x64 only. Which it is not.

  • Vinny Conforto

    any more leaks for IFA2016? I don’t care about Nougat lol

  • Vinny Conforto


  • Bezels for the win !

    sorry but you are spiting boolsh!t again , repair your damn phone or downgrade to 4.4.4., like I told you before Z , Z1 are working perfectly fine on 5.1.1. few of my friends got those phones as well as my close family members .

  • Mateus B. Cassiano

    That’s completely optional and only newr devices will be getting this feature. To date, none of the currently supported Nexus devices receiving the update got this feature.

  • Bezels for the win !

    those are NOT the same , a lot of stuff is different and better on Z3.

  • Bezels for the win !

    it’s never about CPU , even Z1 got better CPU than XA but it didn’t get neither nougat and not even MM .

  • Phil Gym

    We’ll see everything in a week!!

  • Bezels for the win !

    because they where so kind to update Z to 5.1.1 they got to be to so kind to update every other device after like that ! ?

    if someone gives you a gift once you expect him keep giving you gifts all the time ?

    software update sycle is 18 months .

  • Bezels for the win !

    but much MORE THAN 18 months ….

  • DBS

    And? European legal warranties are 24 months. Which means Sony has the legal duty of servicing the phone for that amount of time. And that’s pretty much what they’ve been doing… Until now.
    Well not to mention the enormous “F*ck you” that this is for the people who actually helped them Beta test the software… Precisely on the Z3.

  • KzX

    Did I said better? I said similar because they are similar.

  • rzero21

    Exactly my point. Since it is not better, why should I care for Doze? Nothing beats the true Stamina Mode at the moment and Google is making Sony struggle with one of the key points that makes Xperia phones stand out. Even the latest Stamina Mode is crippled because of google.

  • ZoubIWah

    android 6 is the best release on the z3

  • ZoubIWah

    yeah i guess thats the real point.
    if you upgrade from the z3 and make sony happy (z3 is only like 2 year old..).. what are you going to get? all models after the z3 have poor compromises compared to the z3 model (in particular: none last as long!)

  • Emil Oskarsson

    Seems like Snapdragon 800 and 801 are not being supported with new source codes from qualcomm for never Android versions. Atleast I have heard rumours about it. Anyhow with Sony phones you do get among the longest support time of any Android manufacturer so I don’t know why people keep whining about bad support…

  • Emil Oskarsson

    The original z was golden, and nexus 4 with the same soc is the longest supported nexus device aswell keep that in mind :)

  • Dannisi
  • Mateus B. Cassiano

    Not gonna happen. To bring back Stamina Mode with it’s full capacity like on Lollipop and earlier, Sony would have to do modifications in Android’s Power Management system, and, well, that would interfere with Doze and Google strictly forbids this.

  • Biancoceleste


  • Biancoceleste

    Agree with you there.
    I’d say even the Z1 with the 800 could easily run Nougat.

  • Srikant Boddepalli

    What about my K750i..

  • Well i believe its just the first phase of their update list as the blog has this line saying:
    “We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our devices as possible, as quickly as we can.”
    Also to note here, the recently released two phones in fall 2015, the M5 & C5 Ultra are not even mentioned. I guess, the second phase might include both of them along with the Z3 series. And not to be too happy about it, December would be the time when you’d be getting your updates for your smartphones while the 7.1 would be out on Nexus devices.

  • Well if this trend to be followed then Nougat would be the last major update for Z5. Im disappointed already.

  • HAWX

    Repairing doesn’t Works. And even the other regions releases like Taiwan, Russian etc.don’t work. You are not the onyl smart person, I and many people around the World reported this problem and there is no possible fix for this problem from Sony. I don’t know If your firiends use the phones internet function. Here, check the forum for yourself and see WHO is talking boolshit.

    Ahah and about 4.4.4. Im already on it and have the Russian version because it is a little bit came later and have some little changes than other 4.4.4. But the phone lags heavily at the end of the day IF you haven’t restarted your phone. Notification bar is 1 second behind than your finger, UI is laggish and overall battery life is very very poor. You need to restard the damn thing 2 or maybe 3 to elminate the lag. Again here, see with your eyes.

  • Andrius Mikalauskas

    Phew… I’m sio glad I upgraded to z5 compact it will be great to get android 7.0 on it. Thank you sony for making such a great device.

  • HAWX

    They are stable, but they have major battery drain bug. Can you please send your battery usage page. The bug will be obvious on that page. And you can also check official forum to see what I am talking about.

  • M?rcis Buhholcs

    Z2 and Z3 series has May patch, so we’re on the same boat.

  • M?rcis Buhholcs

    On some regions Z3TC has’nt even received a MM.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    The biggest problem of my batterydrain EVER were social apps like Facebook, Whatsapp, Instagram etc….
    Disable those….
    Also disable automatic updates, and also notifications of all and any installed app in app menu, you really dont need those….
    Its the apps, not the firmware, keep that in mind always…they constantly work in background using the SoC, draining battery, expecting to update or notify you with nonsense about nonsense.

    The ones you must use, hybernate by Greenify or 360 Hybernation Master

  • Ziggy

    Is this some god damn joke from Sony? Z3 series was in the beta program!!!

    Z3 is barely even two years old, this is as stupid as Google dropping support for Nexus 7 2013 version and crapping all over their three year Nexus support program.

  • Ziggy

    I jumped from Nexus 4 to Sony Z3C. Sony is really making so unbelievably stupid business decisions that my next phone won’t be a Sony phone. I love my Z3C, but this kind of bad customer service is incredible.

    Google is also trying really hard for me to dump all their services. Constant killing of all the last best features of Google+ and dumping of Nexus 7 from Nougat update etc.

    Tech companies really don’t know what they are doing. Just money hungry capitalism bullshit.

  • HAWX

    Already have Greenify. also tried apps like CPU-Z to have which process is draining battery etc. The system have this bug, it is not application related. As I said, there is no possible fix or workaround for the battery drain. Still thanks for recommentdation.

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  • AllanKafka

    “software update sycle is 18 months”
    said who?

  • fried_egg

    The Z3 will be 2 years old next month…. As most sales are within 6 months of a launch and with many people buying on a standard 2 year contract, o/s support should last 2.5 years after launch…. with that said… people who bought a z3 within the last 18 months did not really buy a “latest phone” and so should not expect updates “to the latest” to continue – they were not interesting in cutting edge then so they shouldn’t really be expecting it now. The Z3 will work fine with 6.0.1 as it is… and it is a very good phone with it. But want the latest latest? Well you need to be at the front of the bus, not walking…

  • fried_egg

    The Z1 though (and I have one for watching tv in the bath) will be showing its age… For everyday use the batteries will be getting to eol… the phone would be a second or 3rd hand phone for many people… this is not a market Sony or anyone would keep updating for…

  • Tibor Hornyák

    Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+

  • Bezels for the win !

    you are repeating the same crap over and over again on every post that has any connection to software updates .

    – SONY won’t ever fix the problem even if there is one for such an old phone , but there isn’t any issue .

    – Problem is in crappy old battery that needs to be replaced , or some other issue that drains the battery , but not software normal working phone doesn’t loose more than 1-2 % left over night .

    – solution for people like you is to repair the damn phone or get a newer one , you also can downgrade software if you are so sure that is lollipop issue .

    – spamming every page continuously about that same crap is not gonna achieve you anything , you are becoming just like SP-KitKat people and cameraAPI2 losers .

  • Olaf Duits

    Hold your horses on Sony for not releasing Nougat on Z3. It is not Sony’s fault. Android 7 does not support the msm8974 chipset in the Z3.

    From XDA: Someone here would be able to read the Android Sourcecode, they would know why the Z3 and other msm8974 devices are no longer officially supported.

    With 7.0.0, all msm8974 code was removed from AOSP. After all, what you expect is that Sony is supporting a no longer AOSP supported chipset. At what point is that a fair assumption?

    Of cause its sad to hear that the Z3 got the N Previews and now is no longer supported, but guess why there was no Preview 4 or 5 either? Probably that was around the time when Google gave the 8974 chipset the boot.

    After all, the article is not really well researched in my eyes, and written like its Sonys fault that the 8974 platform is no longer supported. Of cause up to some point it is. But there is also a greater matter, which is not in the hands of Sony at all.

    BTW, Sonys Open Devices program will probably find a way sooner or later, its just not something the company can do officially

  • Bezels for the win !

    Sony has legal duty and obligation to update their phones for 18 months. PERIOD .

    warranties have nothing to do with software upgrades nor software updates have anything to do with servicing the phone .

    those people got stable and fast buttery smooth marshmallow for Z3 , right , so what’s the issue ?

  • Cryio

    Even the original Z should run Android 7 flawlessly, based purely on specs

  • Bezels for the win !

    google and as I’m aware that is how much SONY promised .

  • Biancoceleste

    True, it’s getting on now. Was talking purely from a processor standpoint.

  • Biancoceleste

    It could, I’m not really sure. The 800 is a lot more powerful than the S4 pro and isn’t leaps behind what’s around today for everyday use.

    Anything with an S4 pro going to be running Nougat officially?

  • DBS

    If you don’t know what you’re talking about, you should probably don’t talk at all.

    Sony has NO legal obligation to update the phones. Neither for 18 months not 12 nor anything. There’s no law requiring it. Period.
    However, there’s a legal warranty that they have to comply with. And that legal warranty can include software updates as they bring security patches too. By refusing to update, Sony is putting in danger the devices and thus violating their legal obligations. If this were taken to a Court in Europe, Sony would leave with a sentence to force them to update. (that won’t happen ’cause we’ve been dumping Sony phones here for years now so no one cares anymore).
    If you don’t understand legal matters, I’d however suggest you to refrain from commenting on this subject.

    As for the people complaining, it’s their right. Not only the 6.0 update is utter sh*t, they were used by Sony as Guinea pigs to test the software. At the very least it’s utterly disrespectful from Sony.

  • Amimanot

    Apparently it’s due to AOSP removing the code used by snapdragon 800/801 chipsets. As stated by Myself5 in the XDA-Developers comments section for the Xperia Nougat article ( ):

    If someone here would be able to read the Android Sourcecode, they would know why the Z3 and other msm8974 devices are no longer officially supported.

    With 7.0.0, all msm8974 code was removed from AOSP. After all, what you expect is that Sony is supporting a no longer AOSP supported chipset. At what point is that a fair assumption?

    Of cause its sad to hear that the Z3 got the N Previews and now is no longer supported, but guess why there was no Preview 4 or 5 either? Probably that was around the time when Google gave the 8974 chipset the boot.

    After all, the article is not really well researched in my eyes, and written like its Sonys fault that the 8974 platform is no longer supported. Of cause up to some point it is. But there is also a greater matter, which is not in the hands of Sony at all.

    BTW, Sonys Open Devices program will probably find a way sooner or later, its just not something the company can do officially IMO.

  • Bezels for the win !

    you are trolling nonsense as always , you are blocked , bye troll .

  • DBS

    “Bezels for the win!”, the moron who every time someone disproves with facts has no other argument but “you’re trolling” yada yada yada. What a sad pathetic guy.

  • Khillo81

    Well, I don’t know whether this will help but after much searching I found out that Google introduced a bug somewhere along the way (can’t remember if it was with Lollipop or Marshmallow): if you have Google Backup activated and charge your phone while connected to a WiFi network, once the phone is removed from the charger it stays awake all the time. It drove me crazy. Now I’ve disabled Google Backup and the battery life is back to normal. Just thought I’d share in case it helps you or others.

  • pixlas

    As long as you change the platform any OEM is depending on the platform vendor like Qualcomm or MTK to support the platform with the new android version.
    So there is a difference technically but not perhaps too much for us :)

  • serhat üter

    Im not gonna buy sony products again. And i wont let anyone use it. Even samsung is not that much of a scammer.

  • What about my P990i?

  • Matt

    well my z3 is about 2 years old, not getting update is not unnaturral at this point. guess i need to upgrade.

    or maybe ill get a nexus next time :D

  • KarFar

    if Shamesung update their note 4 or s5 to nougat you can talk.

  • KarFar

    sony sux im getting a micromax

  • honglong1976

    And this is why I stopped buying an Xperia a long time ago and own an iPhone 5S. Released Sept 13, receiving the latest iOS 10 update in Sept. :)

  • Cryio

    Nope, just saying that for the core OS, an S4 Pro would be just fine. Quad core 1.7 GHz and Adreno 320? It would blaze through it.

  • lp

    actually it was 2014, and it’s not yet 2 years

  • Test Mail

    Fuck you Sony.

    ~Z3 Compact owner

  • Luke
  • Biancoceleste

    You’re probably right. I never owned a device with that SOC. Had the poor man’s dual core version of the S4 in a Motorola RAZR HD.

  • Biancoceleste

    The Z2 runs excellent on 6.0.1 so I don’t feel too bummed.
    I feel things like split screen on android 7 are more useful on a large tablet screen than on a phone.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    Kid,there is more than power behind the development of a rom.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    Snap 801 (yeah,yeah,B and C),3gb of ram,Adreno 330,same resolution.. Tell me something that is different in Z3,go.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    I’m not talking about real life.

  • Sean

    So the last update for z3 is 23.5.A.1.291 or there will be one more marshmallow upgrade??

  • avrodeep

    great Sony you have literally clubbed 64 bit devices that have been released in 2015 with those that been released in 2014 Xperia M4 Aqua(June’15), C4( jun’15), C5 Ultra (Aug’15), M5(Sep’15) to deprive them of their rightful support and someone buying an E5 the least costly of them all would still be left with a better UI …that’s why I bought a pre owned device SH***Y Sony deserves no better

  • Olaf Duits

    Pffff, men, read all the comments already placed here!!! It’s not due to Sony, it’s Google that does not support the chipset in the Z3 anymore with Nougat. And then again, please tell me what functionality in Nougat would you like that is NOT in Marshmallow?

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    E series is entry level smartphone. it not mean for upgrading android version. just small security/software update

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    u forgot xperia arc

  • mrhangover Rox

    most recent device… how about M5, it’s more recent than z3+, what a joke sony.

  • InspectorGadget80

    Another reason to leave Sony mobile. My Z1 didn’t get shyt. So I’m no longer buying Sony phones since their too damn ignorant not to update my Z1 to Marshmallow. I switch to Windows because manufacturers’ can’t even update a three four year old device for no damn reason.

  • KarFar

    I want to see the reaction of those “sony sux” “Im leaving sony” when samsung decides not to update Note 4 to nougat. Nexus 6 is the only phone from 2014 to be updated.

  • ????? ????????

    It’s because of the Adreno 3xx. They don’t support Vulkan because of the OpenGL ES version being 3.0 not 3.1.
    So for a phone to get certified by Google, it has to support Vulkan at least now (got the conclusion from random sources).

  • Alvin

    So you’re judging which phone is better by their specs and not real life? No wonder you seem less smart there, judging by your comments.

  • Bezels for the win !

    same resolution doesn’t mean that display is the same , which is not , the one in Z3 is twice as bright as one from Z2 , it’s newer panel with adjusted color temperature and reduced battery drain and better contrast .

    adreno 330 in Z2 is clocked at 550 MHz vs 578 MHz in Z3 , not big but there is a slight difference .

    Z2 had imx 200 vs imx 220 in Z3 :

    – imx 200 with older 27mm lens , ISO 100-3200 , 10cm minimum focus range
    – imx 220 with new 25mm lens , 8cm minimum focus range and increased ISO 50-12,800 Sony have also and added Intelligent Active Mode for superb video stabilization .

    IP65 & IP68 on Z3 vs IP55 & IP58 on Z2 , means that Z2 is only dust resistant (not totally prevented) while Z3 is dust tight (totally prevented) , also deeper submersion of 0.5 meters .

    aluminium frame is weak on Z1 and Z2 line and its prone to bending like some of the iphones , Z3 got that fixed .

    there are more tiny differences but are not that important .

  • Alvin

    I have to be honest, xperia phones are getting better as time goes. It is just how they stack up against competitors. Z2 and Z3 are way ahead others back then. Z3+, Z5, and X Series are better than their own predecessors, but they didn’t stack up against their own competitions.

  • Alvin

    Wow hell no.

    Even that first generation Z is more than capable to run Nougat

  • Chris

    I kind of expected it to end at the Z3. Oh well, perhaps Sony will have a change at heart and by miracle they will eventually make it available. And yea it’s totally ironic that one of the first devices they used to test it is the Z3 and then they announce this.

  • Bezels for the win !

    verge is an advertising site … so couldn’t care less about their worthless opinion .

  • Aomine Daiki

    Guys, please stop complaining be contented just think that we are prosperous cause Sony supported our Z2 Phone maybe around 2 years atleast from 4.4.4 up to 6.0.1.

    All I can say, Thank you Sony!

    Thumbs up!!! :)

  • HAWX

    Look you stupid brain dead sht. If you don’t know about the problem I am mentioning and refusing to JUST READ then you better STFU.
    -Problem is not battery shthead. Its 100% software.
    -I am not asking for extra feature like camera2 API low IQ. I am asking for the return of the phones about 2-3 hourish battety life which came with it. It’s about 35 minutes with Lollipop.
    -I’m already using the downgraded software but it has a lot of bugs as well.
    -The thing is that Its not about my own solutions. It is about wheather SONY PROVIDE AN OFFICIAL WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM OR NOT. Even If they offered an official way to dowgrade to older software with fixre bug I would just STFU. And your little head does not get this it seems.
    -It is pretty much related because there IS some people reporting battery drain on Marshmelow alreadys and now we know Sony won’t bring new firmware for these phones.
    -If Sony left the Z and Z1 and their series on fcked up condition they can do the same to Z2 and Z3 series. That’s why it is related.

    And next time please just STFU If you don’t know a shit about the problem. Don’t try to provide a solution or defend Sony because it just so dumb.

  • HAWX

    I have already disabled that and disabled content related advertisement option. Also enabled forced GPU renderings but they heped like 3%. Thr system is broken. I don’n they tested the firmware at that time or not. And IT’s not just my problem. Next time check out the links I provided. Still thank you for trying to help.

  • Emil Oskarsson

    Okey thanks for the info :)

  • Camus343

    Off topic. I have a question. What about the support of Mediatek chipsets? Is better than the Qualcomm chipsets?

  • ????? ????????

    Just noticed that I’ve replied to you on the other site as well. Oops. :)

  • Rafal Gradziel

    neither support for Xperia M5 (released September 2015)

  • smartuser8

    It’s simple, no 32 bits developement for Sony

  • Aomine Daiki

    Correction,they both used the same IMX 220 Lens > check wikipedia

    z2 Advantage
    – The design is better look than z3
    – More realistic display
    – Way better built quality
    – A bit more detail interms of camera output quality > Check this out (

  • Bezels for the win !

    lol little brain got triggered .it seams you failed to read my comment , you should go and do it again , bc all answers you need are there . there are no such software issues you are complaining about in that phone , PERIOD . and yep , you are the same as SP-KitKat people .

  • Bezels for the win !

    Wikipedia is NEVER reliable source , and anyone can edit it , also like it’s stated on that Wikipedia page ”LIST IS NOT COMPLETE ”

    but there is also possibility that I’m also wrong about sensor model . however abilities and specs I mentioned are true and those do make difference in everyday usage .

    those pictures are very own proof of what i have been saying about the camera , better handling ISO sensitivity in low light and better wider lens that capture slight more in the frame . less details is due to noise from higher ISO but overall pictures look better there is no denying that , from your own source :



  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Yea bro, I am not gonna sell my Z3. It’s GOAT. I wish Sony will do the same thing with newer flagship without sacrificing the battery capacity.
    I am hoping that we’ll get QHD display at least 3500mAh battery with newer sensor.(Fingers crossed) If that do the justice, I am definitely buying that.
    One thing I want to mention, I don’t like what they’ve done with the camera UI. Too slow for me specially changing different modes and I feel restricted when I try to take a shot in manual. Since Sony has enabled part of the manual mode we can always use apps like ManualCamera.
    Oh yes I remember you mentioned about 360 Hibernation Master and I didn’t give it a try still, But let’s see what they’re doing with XR. :)

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Precisely, Z5 actually looked nice but it still looked like Z2/3. I mean they should try curve phones. I mean at least they should try.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Original Z was the best man. I love that phone.
    IDK if Sony would ever make phones like that again ;(

  • RockStar2005

    Yeah we’ll see. I’m just not big on the XR’s look & design, but that’s me. It looks like a Nokia phone. lol

    QHD is nice but I’d still rather have longer battery life. lol I’d be happy if they went back to at least 3000mAh! lol I don’t know why they went with 2700mAh for the XP.

    Regarding the camera, maybe it is the same sensor, but the algorithms they’re using are better than even what was on the Z5 (see this video for proof: ). Again, the camera on the XP is even better in SUPERIOR AUTO than the Z3’s camera is in Manual Mode. I never need to change modes or whatever on the XP. I just keep it on SA and I’m good to go! The only thing I may change is the flash, though I usually just leave it on Auto. For taking pics with people Red Eye flash is best, but it can be blinding. lol Before it flashed twice, now it’s like 5 times super fast. lol

    Well it still may be months before the XR is ACTUALLY released, so you might as well try 360. From what I’ve seen, aside from a bigger screen (and maybe SLIGHTLY bigger battery?), the specs are pretty much identical to the XP. But up to you.

  • Mike Gonzalez

    and that’s why Sony’s smartphone market is shrinking at an alarming pace

  • Shehab Skull

    ???? ?????? :3

  • impasse

    what about my trusty t610

  • HAWX

    I gave you an OFFICIAL Sony forum link to just read about what people said there and CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE FAILED. I’m not asking for a new firmware for my phone. I want want it to be work as it was. That’s it. Not wanting a new software just because it’s fancy or I’m jeleous. I want a phone with NO MAJOR STUPID BUGS with original SONY provided software. And your little brain still can’t understand it and qualify me as SP Kitkat people. Congrats again. Oh and please recommend rooting my phone or buying newer one since mine is very old and fail again.

    2nd I won’t discuss with you anymore since you are not talking with any sign of scientific facts on the spesific problem opposed to me!

  • Kiss my e(lbows)

    Probably more with security updates only.

  • Cryio

    I’m sorry, my Lumia 820 from 2012, underspecced compared to the 2012 Sony Z runs W10M RS2 just fine. What were you saying ?

  • Cryio

    I wouldn’t say poor man’s, but had that CPU in my Lumia 820. Still running strong the latest version of Windows 10 Mobile.

  • Rafal

    Shame that so ridiculously overheating phone like Z3+ has the update, when one of best sellers Z3 hasn’t. Time of divorce with Sony is comming, because for me now, there is no flagship Sony device to change: is it X performance? No, it has too small screen for me, because after using 5,2″ for one year I want bigger screen, not smaller – for small requirements was “compact” series, and now absolutely nothing from Sony..

  • Mihai A

    z3+ has the same hw like z5 dude

  • Rafal

    If hardware is more important than customers for Sony, they should start to produce and sell dildos.

  • Adrian G.

    All right, if they decided to drop their Nougat support for older than 2015 phones and of a certain hardware, than this is clearly another bureaucratic stunt made by Google and their all too familiar trends, no interest in maintaining good judgement and keeping their customers happy, it’s all about creating new ones and new loyalties. No thank you Google, I’m happy the way it is now. About Sony Mobile’s decision, I can’t forgive them either, but I can live with it.

    My XPERIA Z3 Compact will survive even if it stays on MM, as long as montly security patches are constantly moving. Back to topic, Google should’ve not dropped the hardware support for less than 64-bit processors for mobile devices, it’s a stupid move and they will regret it as customers with ideas of a newer software on their two-year old devices will start to decline fast and will seek other manufacturers or vendors, simple as that, extortion doesn’t pay well, they should’ve listened to us customers for years instead of doing what’s best for their bosses upstairs, kissing ass.

    Corporate crime doesn’t go well, stop doing that. Start thinking, start listening.

    For us it’s a simple choice, for a decent price, good specs, we don’t flash money around like Samsung or Apple customers do, we keep it simple. not many people can afford phones that cost like a used vehicle or something less easy to toy with.

    And you’re absolutely right, Sony Mobile and Google have no legal obligation to extend their two-year software support for older and newer phones, but that’s just wrong, in Europe they would’ve cooperated immediately, whilst in America, they would’ve done nothing.

    Some warranty legislations should change right now, they should change because the people want to be treated normally, not as numbers, but as people who buy and contribute to a better mobile industry, that’s far right now, but doesn’t have to be.

    For me and others this year 2014 Z3C is the best buy ever, no matter what the mobile industry will think of next, this phone will still rule even after his era will be long gone.

    Not a single scratch has occured on it, despite some people’s claims, whilst others would’ve said differently. With so many fake stuff circling on the mobile market, that claim is also true and we should be aware of such scams. I’ve bought some terrible phones in my past, but this is a keeper, with MM is even faster.

    So don’t worry, as long as it serves you well, it will do its job and continue to be functional.

    I’m not a slave to modern marketing trends, I decide for myself and others like me have all made their best possible choices for buying a decent and durable phone.

  • Gary Ohanian

    The Z1 started with 4.2 and went through 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0.2 to the final 5.1.1 That’s Jelly Bean, Kit Kat and Lollipop. That’s a few updates.

  • Gary Ohanian

    So why are you reading Xperia blog?

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Lol, I guess you missed it when Microsoft and the OEMs decided that there would be no major upgrades for ANY first generation Windows Phone 7 devices. They killed my beloved Dell Venue Pro (the phone, not the tablet) on Windows Phone 7.5 after originally promising all Windows Phone 7 devices would get regular upgrades, unlike most Androids at the time.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Meh, I install generic with flashtool, I’m too impatient for “phased rollouts”

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Damn! Missed that. Thanks!

  • Bezels for the win !

    -you gave me link to a forum where MOST of the people that are complaining ain’t know sh!t , so why should I waste my time to read it ?

    ‘2nd I won’t discuss with you anymore” – I don’t know how did you get such impression from my last reply but I had no intention to discus this anymore further with you , your only issues is because you want for someone else to solve your problems for you , in this case sony mobile , which never is going to happen…is it so hard do you realize that ?

    – can you now please be so kind not to spam future articles here with same crap over and over again… you are getting boring even more than SP KitKat people .

  • whatabout

    what about the z5 premium dual

  • Bashar Shehab

    I already said, Qualcomm and Google dropped support of SD80X devices. Android 7.0 now includes Vulkan’s GPU drivers and Qualcomm isn’t gonna provide the proper drivers to manufactures. Simply, any device that runs Adreno 3xx is not going to have a taste of Nought.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Which video exactly? :D

  • RockStar2005

    Oh sorry. Hit “Send” and I see now I forgot to copy & paste the video. lol

    Anyway, this is it:

    As you can see, the X Performance’s display is brighter and more color accurate, as is the camera with color accuracy, among OTHER things. Enjoy!

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  • Mahesh


  • Emil Oskarsson

    But it’s not possible since all Snapdragon below 800 and 801 doesn’t support vulkan which is a must for Google play services in Android nougat…. Google made it impossible to have Android with Google play store on a device older then 2 years…

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    :P Yea I saw this video.

  • HAWX

    You get this all wrong. I don’t post this to ask for help. Because actually people on here are not objective as well as your approach to me and my problem and they don’t know much, like you.

    I just wrote that because I want to know the others what Sony made there. And I think this was a disaster for a mjor phone manufacturer. And it is real, check the XDA or even Xperia blog at that times post. If you won’t going to check it then get out of the way and let others see the problem.

    People are saying “Sony is good but they don’t do marketing bla bla..”. But in reality cases like this causes Sony’s sales to drop immensly. I just want to open people’s eyes but as you and many others approach is “No there is not a problem, go fck yourself, buy a new phone etc.”.Sorry but with this aproach you and many others are not going to go anywhere.

    If you don’t want to agree with me without providing any evidence then just shut up or ignore me. I am not writing this for stubborn fanboys like you. May be others will see the problem and understand the fatal mistake Sony made and then ignored. So that their approach to Sony will be diffrent, like me. But not you.

  • Ailan Hidaz

    More like a paid iPhone worshiping site that does nothing but cut down reviews because “it doesnt have an apple symbol on it therefore it sux”.

  • It’s a pity that the Z3 series won’t be upgraded.

  • Timo Bähr

    Too sad, Z3/Z3c were released less then two years ago ( So I would expect to get an update as promised by Sony. :(

  • Matt

    so open your eye hole and read this (credits to Mself5 on XDA) he stated that If someone here would be able to read the Android Sourcecode, they would know why the Z3 and other msm8974 devices are no longer officially supported.

    With 7.0.0, all msm8974 code was removed from AOSP(android open source project). After all, what you expect is that Sony is supporting a no longer AOSP supported chipset. At what point is that a fair assumption?

    Of cause its sad to hear that the Z3 got the N Previews and now is no longer supported, but guess why there was no Preview 4 or 5 either? Probably that was around the time when Google gave the 8974 chipset the boot.

    After all, most article is written like its Sonys fault that the 8974 platform is no longer supported. Of cause up to some point it is. But there is also a greater matter, which is not in the hands of Sony at all.

    BTW, Sonys Open Devices program will probably find a way sooner or later, its just not something the company can do officially IMO.

  • azzido

    ZR owner? This device is going to be presented at IFA on 1st September 2016 in Berlin, you already have it? :)

  • Dimitrije Dk

    Well im selling my xperia z2 today and going to buy the s7 edge. Not sure if I’ll ever go back to sony because i got really bored of that UI. Was pleased to have this phone by my side for such a long time because i got it when i came out, but now it’s time to let it go. I think sony is going down hill but who knows, they might make a comeback. I probably won’t visit xperia blog for a long time. So farewell fellow Xperia lovers.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    You didn’t read? There is more than POWER,more than specs,if the kernel doesn’t work = no update,if the speaker doesn’t work = no update,if the SoC is out of the base code,guess what? Yeah,no update.

  • Simon Giesen

    It’s Google and Qualcomm to blame for! They decided to drop support for MSM8974 platform (SD800/801), they won’t release GPU drivers anymore, and Google has removed all MSM8974 related code from AOSP. But I hope that Sony is listening and somehow convincing them to undo that decision or at least try to fix it by themselves.

    It’s all about money. If they release new drivers they loose new business.

    Z3 series runs on Snapdragon 800/801 (MSM8974)
    MSM8974 has Adreno 330 GPU
    Adreno 330 GPU has only support for OpenGL ES 3.0
    Vulkan (a new OpenGL API) needs OpenGL ES 3.1
    Official Android needs Vulkan Support (so says Google)
    Android not Official -> No Play Store
    Android not Official -> Sony can’t publish it because it violates the agreement with Google

    So this is probably how it went down:
    Sony: Hey Qualcomm, maybe we can use OpenGL ES 3.0 for Vulcan?
    Qualcomm: No.
    Sony: Please
    Qualcomm: No.
    Sony: Hey Google, we can’t do Vulcan. Can we still be official Android?
    Google: No.
    Sony: Come on man, it’s just one feature. We even finished the Preview and all
    Google: No. F*** off. If you try, I will sue you.

  • Nils

    Just buy a new phone pls, I bet your Z runs way better than my M7 did with its final firmware.

  • RockStar2005

    Ok good. lol

  • Kabuto Kouji

    Told u guys, Z2 is terminated officially! (T_T) but …Z3 came as surprise to me

  • Kabuto Kouji

    mmm… yes but Z2 even did better dude, remember jumping from 4.4 to 6.0.1 is the champion to me!!! Z2 got is final update revently making battery life SUPERB!

  • Saeed

    Z3 is the best, thanks sony.
    If Z3 not supported android 7, please update security patch.

  • Bezels for the win !

    haha so true ….

  • Cryio

    That’s dumb. The only truly way the SD801 wouldn’t be supported was if 7 was x64 only (which it is not last time I checked). Nor does it require CPU instructions newer than on SD801. And I doubt it only supports Vulkan 1 for its GPU drivers.

    So … ?

  • JonShipman

    There’s a part that’s not getting driver support that’s a part of the SD801 SOC.

  • Matt

    scratch that, z3 will not get nougat at all, google has ended the support for snapdragon 801 in AOSP code.

  • John Zakaria
  • tariq khan

    And what about sony xperia z3 dual d6633 ?

  • Aomine Daiki

    hey, I’m not done yet.. Fist of all FYI, there is no existing IMX200 produce by Sony!! Search before you post.

    Do you consider the other Pictures in the link? if you noticed some of Image good quality is goes to z2, admit that :P

  • Cryio

    Doesn’t Android GPU driver work about the same as the Windows/Phone drivers?

    All of them are DirectX11, with different feature levels, depending on hardware capabilities, like 11_1, 10_1, 9_3, but in OpenGL equivalents? Like ok, it doesn’t support Vulkan 1, can’t it fallback on OpenGL ES 3.2, 3.1, 2.0 etc?

    How can Galaxy S2 devices run roms based on Android 7 for example?

  • Saeed Okoroji

    Then explain how 7.0 was already ported to the Nexus 5?

  • Mahesh

    What about my J300i??? :-(

  • Bashar Shehab

    Because there is no Vulkan drivers in it. Manufacturers are not allowed to push any update if it doesn’t pass their testing, and that includes the existence of Vulkan’s drivers.

  • Nav

    Ya its bad for SD800 versns..! Dont know why? But why 2015 models like M5 M4 are not included..????

  • azzido

    It is almost 2 years, and Android 7 did not start to release right now, they only mentioned that “will be updating” without providing the dates, so rather it will be AFTER Z3s “2 years”.

  • Timo Bähr

    Interesting detail, Qualcomm does not release drivers for the 801 processor that the Z2/Z3 devices have in common. But now I don’t understand how it worked for the beta program software…

  • JonShipman

    Because those ROMs are using the kernel from the last official Android version.

    It’s not like it can fallback – the driver support was pulled. OEM do not use the same hacks that ROM developers throw together. There are rules, licensing agreements, and contracts stopping big companies from modifying certain software aspects.

    There’s a difference between “getting it to work” and “legally getting it to work”. There’s also the cost factor. ROM developers do what they do for no money (excluding donations). Try to get a team from Sony, Motorola, HTC, or wherever to get something ported (with no help from Google or Qualcomm) without pay. Even with paying them, they’d need to reverse engineer the chipset to write their own kernel.

  • Rikimaru Azuma

    Nougat Beata works great on Xperia Z3 then why not release the final build?…

  • roeshak

    before z2 and z3 owners start complaining, 7.0 was never on the table for 2014 devices.

  • AFAIK, Vulkan is not mandatory yet in Nougat. I think I read somewhere that maybe for next OS. Anyway, there should be some sort of pressure from Sony (HTC, etc.) to Qualcomm to release drivers for the SoC or the GPU or whatever chip is needed.

  • Vitali

    What about my Xperia Neo V?

  • Roh_Mish

    Not true. In fact OEMs can still manufacture devices with N that doesn’t have vulkan support.

  • InspectorGadget80

    Hey I’m happy what I have I don’t have to wast 600$ on a Android device that doesn’t get update and they force u to buy a new one. This will be my last smart phone. I’m going back to the flip phone. And save myself some money

  • nashidar

    Ah planned obsolescence. Creating more and more toxic waste landfill. Lovely.

  • Emil Oskarsson

    Reason why the z2 and z3 range won’t get Android 7.0 even if Sony first wanted to update atleast the z3 series :

  • Emil Oskarsson
  • Iltar van der Berg

    I don’t even have the Z3 compact for 2 years and I already stop receiving updates? Wtf Sony -.-

  • Tommy He

    Glad Z4 Tablet is also getting 7.0 upgrade. The Multi-window mode will make it even better as a laptop alternative for productive usage.

  • Himanshu Mehta

    Do you consider Z2 and Z3 as premium series phone? Z2 and Z3 are not economical phones and so Android 7 must be released for Z2 and Z3 series as well

  • Johnny Youssef

    get life get iPhone, I’m relieved now that I don’t have to worry about Android version anymore :)

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    Man.. I mean internally.. The necessary to boot.. SoC and ram..

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    I’m not saying which phone is better,I’m saying they don’t have nothing different internally to have better or worse development.

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    You didn’t read about the CTS certification,right? If the SoC doesn’t supports Vulkan or OpenGL 3.1 it will not update to N,doesn’t matter how new is,if doesn’t supports it,it will die.

  • visualj

    oh so that’s why my docomo xperia z is stuck at 4.4.4, Docomo knew it would be bad if it’s Lollipop.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Hey, if that works for you, more power to you, but look at it this way:
    Nobody is FORCED to buy a new phone just because the old one won’t get the new version of Android/iOS/Windows, whatever.
    I still own a couple totally usable phones running older versions (my Dell Venue Pro (WP7.5) that I mentioned as well as a Samsung Galaxy Ch@t (Android 4.1) and a Moto Pro+ (Android 2.3). They’re not my daily drivers anymore, but the outdated OS is only part of why I don’t use them anymore.

    And there is no guarantee that your PC will always be able to upgrade Windows versions.
    With Windows 8, Microsoft made all CPUs from the Pentium M and older obsolete and unable to upgrade.
    Windows XP killed any hardware that didn’t have WDDM drivers (more or less).
    Windows 3.11 made lots of old PCs obsolete if they didn’t have at least an i386 CPU.

    Rumor has it that Windows will be dropping support for legacy BIOS in the near future.

    Just things to think about.

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    Oh, and also; the Z1 launched with Android Jelly Bean. It got upgrades ti KitKat and Lollipop. While not amazing, that’s not too bad

  • Michel AW

    What the hell??? No update for Sony Xperia C5 Ultra too??? SONY, you sucks!!!

  • There is also a security breach / flaw in the 800/801/805 chips along with another major incompatibility. Honestly, who gives a shit? Those are old ass phones. If people wanna root and hack them, cool but why waste money?

  • Meko assem

    Why c5 will not get android 7?

  • nikola

    sony are faggots

  • ArtZilla

    What about my Sony SMD J5?


    hope they do; it’s great both in design and specs.

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