Are you ready for a new Xperia design language next year?

by XB on 27th September 2017

in Rumours


For those of you who hoping for a more relevant Sony Xperia smartphone design, in a year that has given has near bezel-less phones, then you’ll be glad to hear that a refresh may finally be on the cards.

Kenichiro Hibi, Sony Mobile India’s man in charge, told indianexpress.com that Sony could look to adopt a similar design language which will arrive “soon”. Hibi went on to say, “we have deployed an omnibalance design as long as the X series continues to be available in the market. Also, we are planning to launch new generation of products and you can expect a complete new design from the devices”.

So could 2018 be the year that we finally see Sony move away from its current design language, which first surfaced back with the original Xperia Z in 2013? We’re certainly excited about the possibilities, as we don’t think Sony’s flagship line could keep the current design into 2018 with any credibility. What are your thoughts? Would you like to see a change, or do you prefer the classic look of Sony’s current design. Let us know in the comments below.

Via Indian Express.

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  • Mohammed Alaskar

    finally a promising respond

  • This news got my nips hard. Now.. we will have to wait and see how they play to make things even more harder next year. Time for a change Sony!

  • DBS

    More than a new design, Sony needs to also add in all the basic features of a flagship going into 2018 like OLED displays, OIS on the camera (ffs! I’ve been saying this for years!) and wireless charging (thank you Apple! I hate you but thank you for indirectly forcing Android OEMs to gain some sense).

    A bezelless Xperia will be very interesting (and a bezelless COMPACT Xperia even more so). But it will be all in vain if Sony insists on keeping everything else stuck in time with LCDs, no-OIS, no-Qi charging etc.

  • Zyad Atef

    ready if NO BEZEL-LESS

  • Zayed Kotayba

    I would love to see sony’s take on bezel-less phone also it’s about time for a new philosophy design and as much as I love the omni-balance design we need some change

  • LTEstyles

    As much as I love the Omni design language, I also look forward to a unique, more modern design only Sony can make. Here’s to me buying the XZ1 now, and new device in 2018!

  • Drelkag

    I love the Sony design we have now personally. Hoping they keep that sophisticated look that’s just as recognizable when they change it up.

  • mixedfish

    Nope they don’t any of that, they just need to get their shit together with better camera algorithm or provide RAW.

    Don’t want OLED if it forces them to go 2k just to compete against LCD 1080p pixel sharpness, don’t want OIS if it means dirt butt ugly camera humps (the existing Xperia camera hump is borderline bad enough) and don’t want wireless charging because it’s such a useless feature who has ever said ‘hey I need to charge my phone could I borrow your proprietary saucer dish wireless charger that plugs into a USB port that could have just been a simply $2 USB cable?” NEVER.

  • mixedfish

    I just hope that Xperia moves forward with a design that still has the soul of Xperia, and not another rounded corner anonymous iPhone clone that every other phone tries to be.

  • DBS

    They actually do need all of that. Fortunately you don’t get to decide those things, the market does. And the market has said all those things are necessary in a real flagship (and they are). Also:

    “Don’t want OLED if it forces them to go 2k just to compete against LCD 1080p pixel sharpness”
    It doesn’t. Unless they use really shitty cheap OLED panels. But that’s extremely unlikely. Also sharpness isn’t directly related to the screen technology. It’s related to the software.

    “don’t want OIS if it means dirt butt ugly camera humps”

    OIS doesn’t need camera humps. Unless you want to make a stupidly and unnecessarily thin phone. Besides, yeah, you already have a hump on current Xperias without OIS. So if they’re putting in a hump, might as well add in a desperately needed feature.

    “don’t want wireless charging because it’s such a useless feature who has ever said ‘hey I need to charge my phone could I borrow your proprietary saucer dish wireless charger ”

    Proprietary? Only if Sony decided on it. Otherwise, if they go with the market standard, it’ll be Qi wireless charging which is pretty much used by everyone (old Nokia, Microsoft, Samsung, LG and now even Apple) what you’ll be seeing everywhere now that Apple also adopted it (and if Apple adopted Qi wireless charging instead of a proprietary, there’s no way Sony would go proprietary). Because of Apple you’ll be able to take your phone anywhere (coffee, restaurant etc) and just put it on the table and it’ll charge.
    No more idiotic cable charging. Who the hell is still charging phones with a cable in 2017? I haven’t charged one with a cable since 2012. I sure as hell won’t be going backwards 5 years.
    When did someone said “I can just place the phone down on this pad but I rather stick a cable in it and tether it to a wall”? NEVER.

  • Darni187

    What benefits or which part of OLED on a phone vs Sony’s LCD 4K HDR panel better? Have you seen and Sony XZP screen vs S8 screen comparison?

  • DanielGearSolid

    The current design with a lot less bezel would be fine

  • DBS

    Yes, I have seen the XZP against the S8. If fact, a couple of hours ago I had a XZP next to a Note 8 in front of me.

    The AMOLED display is better in brightness, it’s better in colour reproduction and it’s better in sharpness. Both phones have HDR screens. The XZP in 4K isn’t distinguishable from the Note 8 in 2K. The only way one could notice the difference would be if we put it on a VR headset…except the XZP being an LCD isn’t daydream compatible so that alone puts an end to its usefulness.
    When it comes to watching videos, you have to be “careful” comparing them because the LCD on the XZP is naturally dimmer than an AMOLED display and so if you put them both at maximum brightness, the image will turn out worse on the AMOLED display because it’s too bright (obviously).

    The 4K screen on the XZP looks great when compared to other LCDs. No doubt about that. But when you put it against a good OLED display, the difference in quality becomes noticeable. And unless you spend your day watching videos on your phone (and if you do…you should probably consider getting a TV instead), on day to day use of the phone, be it in apps or the system UI – where HDR and 4K on the XZP does NOT work – the LCD presents you with a much worse experience.

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  • Mateus B. Cassiano

    It doesn’t. Unless they use really shitty cheap OLED panels.

    The issue isn’t the OLED panels, it’s the shitty Pentile matrix that Samsung keeps pushing and that unfortunately most other OEMs followed, and yes, you need higher resolutions to match the sharpness of a, for example, 1080p IPS LCD panel when the OLED panel you’re comparing against uses the Pentile crap. If they used standard RGB matrix, that wouldn’t be a problem, and that’s also my bet on why Sony hadn’t switched to proper OLED (with standard RGB matrix) yet.

  • Darni187

    Interesting, Sony’s own OLED TV are quite expensive a but are amongst the best in the business I just hope the quality of Sony devices remain the same as I think this move with OLED screens has been of hold due to cost.. Sony can always go down the route of buying screens direct off Samsung but I think the will want to build their own or a Japanese screen makers to make them..

  • Evin Akash Gunawardana

    Sony please stop current design, it’s enough now, coz of that design Sony drops sales for millions of units for sure,if you want to beat Samsung giant you have to change the design lane immediately, so please go for it without any hesitation, people expect true curve design and no bazzal phone couple of years ago from Sony, but Sony didn’t hear us,

  • QBerto

    Finally, but I hope they go too far on that new design or just copy another brand’s design

  • DBS

    Actually what’s crap is the standard RGB matrix. Which is why no one is using it anymore. There’s a reason why Pentile is better: the Pentile matrix that Samsung uses (and others adopted as well, as you said) is much better as it allows for longer lifetime of the display. Because the blue OLEDs on the display have lower efficiency, they need to be run at higher energy current. Which means that the blue OLEDs are the first ones to die. By using Pentile, the size of that Blue OLED as well as the number of blue OLEDs is reduced, increasing not only the efficiency of the phone but also the lifetime of the display without compromising on the quality of the image.

    Considering people like to b*tch about the mythical “burn in” of OLED displays (something that I’ve never seen in 5 years of using OLED displays), going with old standard RGB matrix would be absolutely idiotic of any company.
    Sony isn’t waiting to put in a panel on their phones that will die quickly. Until the efficiency of blue OLEDs is vastly increased, Pentile displays are here to stay, whether you like it or not. And considering you can NOT see the pixels on small 1080p screens nor on 2K displays, it’s absolutely irrelevant to the conversation because you’re basing your dislike on an argument that isn’t even realistic.
    Sony’s lack of adoption of OLED displays, I bet, is more connected with their wish of using their own display division OLEDs instead of using Samsung’s (and having to pay for it). LG is also only now moving to OLED displays on their phones following a massive investment in their Display division to ramp up not only R&D for their TVs but also to massively increase R&D and manufacturing of OLED displays for mobile.

    Seeing as Sony is also now shifting their premium TVs to OLED, they’re likely awaiting for their display division to be ready to provide mobile OLED displays in the needed quantities (and perhaps the massive loss of consumers on their mobile division might help that since they have a vastly inferior number of displays they need to provide as they don’t need to manufacture so many phones).

  • DBS

    Yes, I also have a feeling that Sony is just waiting for their mobile marketshare to lower to numbers low enough that their own display division can start providing OLED displays for mobile and then go from there.
    As I said above, LG only started to move now to OLED displays after having made a massive investment in their display division to ramp up R&D or OLED displays both for TVs (where they reign supreme) and for mobile (where Samsung is the de facto King).

  • webuser.my

    As long as they retain the side mounted fingerprint sensor and the front stereo speakers, I will be happy. Still personally find the side to be the best natural position to power on/unlock the phone.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    Fix the crazy distortion first !

  • Svnjay

    I want a Bleach phone

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    LG makes the oled panels for Sony.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Hdr is a video technology, so it wouldn’t work in apps or ui, but 4k is enabled for everything I do with xzp. Yes amoled is brighter, but that’s the way Samsung likes it; really bright display with over saturated colors. I by own Samsung tvs for the same reason. I prefer life-like color more than over saturation. Thus I have a1e.
    I don’t think Sony cares about daydream. I believe they are more interested in pushing psvr. Just opinion.

  • comme des garcons

    YES!!! Design changes are what Xperia phones need most right now. I hope I will see stunning design changes in 2018.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    The thing with wireless charging is most people put some sort of case on their phone; or they risk the meme I saw the day new iphones were introduced, people walking around with 2 cracked screens instead of 1; which defeats the just place phone on charging pad to charge. I preferred the held Sony used on the z3; sell a case which allowed for wireless charging. Worked flawlessly. Yet I haven’t seen a Sony or 3rd party since, that would allow for it. I would definitely get the case for my xzp if made available.

  • Phil Gym

    slash the bezels and make it a bit less boxy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hizIP3tXfvM

  • Phil Gym

    exactly right

  • DBS

    Unless you put a metal case on a phone (and those, to my knowledge, don’t exist), the presence of a case does NOT prevent wireless charging at all.
    As for iPhone users having cracked screens…that’s pretty normal on iPhone users lol. And let’s be honest…if you spend 1000€ on a phone and you are careless with it, you deserve it to be cracked. That being said, I’ve used Xperias back when they used premium glass backs and I’ve used an S7 which has fallen far more than I would like it to. I’ve NEVER had any of them crack or shatter or anything.

    I hated the case. First because they only did it for the larger Z3. And then because some of us actually don’t like cases. I for example only use a dbrand skin on my phones. That’s it.

    As for why we haven’t seen wireless charging cases from Sony or anyone, that’s because Sony removed the magnetic charger. The truth is that the wireless charger case connected to the magnetic charging port and that transferred the power from the Qi coil to the phone. Which was pretty pointless. For that we could just get a magnetic charging dock and be done with it.
    The advantage of wireless charging is that it can be built into the body of the phone. Then if you want to use a case you use it, if you don’t, you don’t. And it’s not like it requires the phone to be fatter anyway.

    On the XZ1 for example, Sony should have added wireless charging to the XZ1 Compact since they decided to make it out of plastic instead of aluminium. If they’re going to cheat people who bought the Compact on the building material, they should have made up for it by adding wireless charging. They didn’t. They’re asking 600€ for the Compact with a full blown plastic body and not even wireless charging to make up for it.

  • Mateus B. Cassiano

    Actually what’s crap is the standard RGB matrix. Which is why no one is using it anymore.

    Samsung still uses RGB instead of the Pentile on their tablets (niche segment, low pixel density so cheaper to produce anyway) and on some of their midrange phones (that usually are 720p, thus, way cheaper to produce than the QHD panels of their flagships). Also, manufacturing OLED panels using Pentile matrix instead of RGB is cheaper (especially at higher pixel densities), so, from Samsung standpoint, that is selling millions of devices and that also produces panels for other OEMs, why bother using OLED panels with a higher quality RGB matrix that are expensive if we can just manufacture a cheap panel by using Pentile matrix coupled with a higher pixel count that’s not really needed at that sizes (5″~6″) other than to make the disadvantages of the Pentile matrix harder to notice?

    By using Pentile, the size of that Blue OLED as well as the number of blue OLEDs is reduced, increasing not only the efficiency of the phone but also the lifetime of the display without compromising on the quality of the image.

    Firstly, using fewer subpixels and sharing others do affect the sharpness of the image, thus quality is already compromised to some extent by choosing Pentile. Secondly, it doesn’t matter if there are fewer blue subpixels on a Pentile matrix than a conventional RGB matrix, those fewer blue subpixels that still are there would still die earlier than their red/green counterparts and thus the quality of the image would still be compromised anyway. Also, even on the case of the blue subpixels that are the first to die, we are talking about a lifetime of a couple of years at worst, and I surely doubt people would still be using the same phone long enough to actually see and perceive when the subpixels start degrading or even dying.

    Considering people like to b*tch about the mythical “burn in” of OLED displays (something that I’ve never seen in 5 years of using OLED displays), going with old standard RGB matrix would be absolutely idiotic of any company.

    If you’re so sure that burn-in on OLED displays are mythical, can you explain why Samsung bothered to officially implement a little “trick” on Galaxy S8/Note 8 that keeps automatically shifting the position of the always visible home button a few pixels from time to time to prevent screen burn-in and that following S8/Note 8 launch, some custom ROMs for a lot of devices with OLED screens are now implementing something very similar not only for the navigation bar but also for the battery/signal icons as well? Too much effort to prevent something “mythical”, that never happens, don’t you think? Whether you like it or not, burn-in on OLED displays are still a thing.

    And considering you can NOT see the pixels on small 1080p screens nor on 2K displays, it’s absolutely irrelevant to the conversation because you’re basing your dislike on an argument that isn’t even realistic.

    I was referring exclusively to the overall sharpness, not individual pixels. Grab a good IPS LCD screen and compare it side-by-side with an equivalent good Pentile-based OLED Screen (like LG G2 vs Galaxy S5 or LG G5 vs Galaxy S7, for example) and you’ll see that at roughly the same pixel density, the OLED screen won’t be as sharp as the equivalent LCD screen, especially at text rendering, not because the OLED panel is bad, but because it’s using the Pentile crap. That’s also why QHD on 5″~6″ screens are standard on Samsung flagships for some years now, not because you really need it, but because at such higher pixel density it becomes harder to notice the loss of sharpness caused by the Pentile matrix. That’s simply a fact related to the technical aspects of the Pentile matrix, that’s not even a debatable point.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Same here. If anything I would prefer to get a xzp tablet. I’d much rather have that than be forced to get a galaxy s3 tab.

  • DBS

    As far as I know, unless you hacked the phone with ADB, the XZP will NOT run in 4K constantly. And I know HDR applies to video. Which is why when it comes to day to day use, it doesn’t matter if the phone has HDR or not.

    “Yes amoled is brighter, but that’s the way Samsung likes it; really bright display with over saturated colors.”

    To be fair, Samsung provided the exact same colour calibration tools that Sony provides. Which means while they do make the phones out of the box bright and colourful, you’re NOT forced to use the phone that way. You can “dull down” the colours to a more “realistic” image in the settings, just like you can “saturate” the colours on Sony’s displays.

    As for TVs, I prefer LG’s anyway so…but, again, same principle applies. You can change the colour callibration on the displays to your liking. Which means that in the end you’ll be stuck between having a screen that *can be* more colourful or less colourful, has better brightness levels and true blacks (OLED) or a screen that can be more or less colourful but is always dimmer and without the ability to display real blacks.

    “I don’t think Sony cares about daydream. I believe they are more interested in pushing psvr. Just opinion.”

    I do agree with this. Though it’s pretty stupid of them. They had the perfect opportunity with Android VR to marry their PSVR platform with it. They have PS Remote Play, they could perfectly well use it to sell an Xperia VR headset. It would still need an OLED display anyway.

  • DBS

    Are you sure? I was under the impression JDI provided those. Well, in that case, Sony can just tap into LG Display’s mobile OLED pool and get supplies from them. The display on the V30 is really good and if Sony is already using LG Display for their Bravias, they might as well use them for their Xperias as well.

  • Vinny Conforto

    Fed up with the same design, I would love to see a new Xperia design, NEW and FRESH and UP-TO-DATE

  • DBS

    “Samsung still uses RGB instead of the Pentile on their tablets (niche segment, low pixel density so cheaper to produce anyway) and on some of their midrange phones (that usually are 720p, thus, way cheaper to produce than the QHD panels of their flagships).”

    All Samsung phones – well, the A line, J line and S line – now use their “Super AMOLED” technology. The only one who doesn’t – the J3 (2017) doesn’t use OLED at all. You might want to update yourself there ;)
    At any rate, we’re not talking about cheap devices. We’re talking about Sony’s flagships, which sell for 600€-800€.
    I understand if a 150€ phone uses a crap standard RGB screen. Not a 700€ one.

    “Also, manufacturing OLED panels using Pentile matrix instead of RGB is cheaper (especially at higher pixel densities), so, from Samsung standpoint, that is selling millions of devices and that also produces panels for other OEMs, why bother using OLED panels with a higher quality RGB matrix that are expensive”

    The problem with your argument here being that standard RGB panels are INFERIOR to Pentile. And that GOOD RGB OLED panels don’t exists yet. You can say “why would Samsung invest billions of dollars in R&D for an actually good RGB matrix when they can save money and use Pentile.” And that would be a valid argument. However, currently, a standard RGB display IS inferior to a Pentile solution for the reasons I explained (and you glossed over).

    “Firstly, using fewer subpixels and sharing others do affect the sharpness of the image, thus quality is already compromised to some extent by choosing Pentile.”

    Except the human eye can NOT see that and Pentile uses the same process logic as the human eye. So it’s absolutely irrelevant if IN A LAB a machine tells you the quality is compromised because in real world usage, such a compromise has no effect on your usage of the display.

    “Secondly, it doesn’t matter if there are fewer blue subpixels on a Pentile matrix than a conventional RGB matrix, those fewer blue subpixels that still are there would still die earlier than their red/green counterparts and thus the quality of the image would still be compromised anyway.”

    The fact that there are fewer blue OLEDs reduces the current used and therefore extends the life of the display. Even though the blue pixels are the first to die anyway, Pentile allows the entire display to last longer. By using the standard RGB crap you like so much, all you would achieve would be the exact same image but a display that would last you probably half the lifetime of a Pentile one.

    “I surely doubt people would still be using the same phone long enough to actually see and perceive when the subpixels start degrading or even dying.”

    Except you, as a business, can’t predict usage of your device by the users. People are using their phones for longer and longer periods of time. This has been so in Europe for decades and it’s now starting to happen in the US as well. People no longer change phones every year. Which means that the phones will remain in use for longer and the likelihood of a non-Pentile display dying on a consumer is therefore higher than the likelihood of a Pentile one.

    “If you’re so sure that burn-in on OLED displays are mythical, can you explain why Samsung bothered to officially implement a little “trick” on Galaxy S8/Note 8 that keeps automatically shifting the position of the always visible home button a few pixels from time to time to prevent screen burn-in and that following S8/Note 8 launch”

    I say mythical because it’s not as common as LCD-defenders pretend it is. And that’s exactly because ALL companies who produce OLED screens introduce those “tricks” to make sure a display stays healthy for much much longer. And if they used your beloved standard RBG matrix, you’d see them be even more aggressive with those “tricks” because they would need to push out double the prevention since the blue pixels would be constantly emitting higher current.
    It’s NOT a thing. It’s a possibility. Which is why companies do these things. It’s like lifejackets on a plane. They’re not there because planes usually land in the sea. They’re there because planes CAN EVENTUALLY land in the sea. Even though the likelihood of that happening is extremely low (normally when planes crash…they crash).

    “Grab a good IPS LCD screen and compare it side-by-side with an equivalent good Pentile-based OLED Screen (like LG G2 vs Galaxy S5 or LG G5 vs Galaxy S7, for example) and you’ll see that at roughly the same pixel density, the OLED screen won’t be as sharp as the equivalent LCD screen, especially at text rendering, not because the OLED panel is bad, but because it’s using the Pentile crap.”

    I’ve in front of me two. A 2K 5.3″ LCD display (Nokia 8) and a 2K 5.1″ SuperAMOLED display (Galaxy S7). There is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in the sharpness of the text, neither in web-pages nor in the UI. In fact, the OLED may look a *little* bit “sharper” and it’s not because it’s sharper, it’s because it’s rendering the text with true blacks instead of very very dark greys.

    “That’s also why QHD on 5″~6″ screens are standard on Samsung flagships for some years now, not because you really need it, but because at such higher pixel density it becomes harder to notice the loss of sharpness caused by the Pentile matrix.”

    No, it’s not. Samsung flagships come with 2K displays because of the Gear VR. Since the Gear VR uses your phone display, it needs the higher resolution since using a lower one would make the pixellation even more obvious because the lenses of the Gear VR are magnifying them. That’s why there have been talks of Samsung putting a 4K display on their phones. And that’s why Sony is stupid not to put an OLED display in. These 2K displays and 4K displays are useful for VR. Absolutely nothing else.

    “That’s simply a fact related to the technical aspects of the Pentile matrix, that’s not even a debatable point.”

    It’s a completely irrelevant fact. Not only it has been asserted why standard RGB matrix is worse than Pentile, the 2K displays aren’t being put on phones because of sharpness. They’re there because of VR. In fact, if you pick up an S7 or S8, I dare you to use it in 1080p and then 2K and say you notice any difference in the sharpness of the text. You won’t. Unless you use a microscope, your eyes will NOT see any difference and they sure as hell will NOT see if it’s a Pentile display or not.

  • illstplaya .

    I really hope not. The bezel less phones don’t have a good screen ration. I don’t want a phone with a 18:9 ratio. Videos and photos end up being either elongated and therefore distorted or you end up with black borders at the end of the screen because the video or photo doesn’t adjust for the screen ratio.

  • Santos

    if the screen aspect ratio is still 16: 9, and keep the 3.5mm input everything is fine

  • Mateus B. Cassiano

    Well, if you still want to believe the excuses and shortcomings taken in the development of the Pentile matrix are actually the “future” and that Pentile matrix is currently the superior technology when compared to the standard RGB layout (haha), fair enough.

    I won’t even bother replying anymore at this point, make good use of your devices with Pentile crap OLED screens and I’ll stick with the still good RGB IPS LCD screens until something better surfaces…

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Completely forgot about the magnetic charge port. If a case doesn’t affect qi charging, then I wouldn’t mind wireless charging in Xperia. But it is still not a necessity. The charging pad has to be plugged in an outlet just like the USB c cable. I’d rather go with the 5 cables over 5 pads; office, car, bedroom, kitchen & travel.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Jdi makes led-lcd displays; Xperia phones & lcd tvs. Sony oled screens are LG displays. The main difference between Sony & LG oled tvs is Sony has Bravia engine tech & the screen vibrates to create sound.

  • mountain

    The large bezels of the phone might be out dated, but the back side is a sure win. Comparing the back panel of XZP/XZ1, it makes Note8/IPX just ugly.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Vr first, not stupid. It’s like PS4. Sure Sony could enable cross play to work with Xbox, but they don’t. Why give anyone a reason to buy Xbox, when PS4 is out selling it by a wide margin? Sony gets no money from Xbox sale.
    Sony could marry psvr with Android vr, but their in-house vr is out selling all others by a wide margin. Sony doesn’t get money, or much, from an android vr ecosystem. With all the other Android manufacturers adopting daydream, Sony doesn’t need to make a push into someone else’s vr tech.

  • jamie evans

    Hooray!!

  • Abhinav Singh

    Using Xperia devices from last 4 years, love them all. Sony please bring bezel less screen and keep the other things as they are.

  • DBS

    What the…where the hell did you brought Xbox from? Who the hell was talking about Xbox?
    I’m saying that it’s stupid for them to not offer mobile VR in complement to their PS VR. Since they already have the capabilities to do VR, it’s stupid that they don’t take the advantage to get a step up on mobile VR as well. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Xbox, or their (right) decision to not allow cross-platform multi-play etc.

    “Yes, used adb. It’s not really “hacking.” it’s more going into developer settings & instructing phone not to downscale to 1080p.”

    Well, you purposefully sent commands to the phone to change it’s behaviour. That’s a hack, mate lol Point is, it’s not the normal behaviour of the phone.

    “even after calibrating, Samsung are still over saturated, the brightness is off and the colors are not natural. ”

    This is not true. I can put a Samsung device looking as dull as a Sony one. The only thing I CAN’T properly reproduce is the crappy blacks but that’s because we’re not given control over that since the display technology is different. Of course, why would I or anyone do that, I have no idea.
    As for your friends, yes, it’s a matter of preference. But I don’t believe for an instance that they’ll prefer dull screens over good ones. Most people don’t. You, mate, are amongst the minority. ;)
    And I mean…I don’t want to be a spoil sport but…you better get used to OLED displays. LCDs, just like Plasmas before, are on their way out. Pretty soon you won’t have LCDs neither on TV’s nor on phones. You’ll get them on PC monitors only…and even then it’ll be a matter of time as well. So…enjoy the dullness while it lasts ;P

  • DBS

    “But it is still not a necessity. The charging pad has to be plugged in an outlet just like the USB c cable.”

    That’s what you think. The moment you move to wireless charging, you don’t go back to cables except if there’s an emergency. They’re not mutually exclusive technologies. You won’t see charging cables go away for wireless charging (well…uh…on Android. I better not extend this to Apple because, you know…headphone jack).

    And once you move to wireless chargers (which can be built into your home decoration and even into your furniture), you’ll pretty much create an ecosystem with them and never bother with it again. I have one on every division of my house (not the bathroom. I don’t take electronics to the bathroom), on the car and in the office. Wherever I go I know I just need to put down my phone and it’ll start charging. And I do not see the cables.

    I did this around my home back in 2012 –
    youtube (dot) com/watch?v=xZo2pA0Qc9U

    And now you can even buy furniture which already brings wireless charging built into it. And with Apple’s adoption of the Qi standard that everyone else was using, you can expect adoption to ramp up significantly. Seriously, when you give it a try, you won’t want to ever see charging cables again ;)

  • DBS

    Mate, I believe in science. If you want to deny it, you better start producing physical evidence of your outlandish claims. Because the facts are simply against you.

    Enjoy your shitty LCDs while they last. Because that standard RGB shit is going out the door to meed Plasmas pretty soon. OLED is here to stay and until a breakthrough is made on RGB matrix that solves the serious issues it causes on OLED displays, so is Pentile. Whether your whinny self and your delusions like it or not ;)

  • DBS

    And JDI isn’t working on OLED technology? ’cause if they aren’t…well…they’ll be out of business in the very near future.

  • azzido

    Finally, but we do not know yet if it will be nice.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    For me, phone connected to cable that is connected to outlet is not that different than phone placed on pad with a cable that is connected to outlet. Granted it is simpler and faster to place phone on pad than to plug cable into slot on phone, but it’s not that much simpler and faster.

    I would bore holes into Ikea furniture, but not into the furniture I own.

    We can agree to disagree on the importance of cable versus pad with cable. Where wireless charging will have a huge impact is in cars.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    Yes they are working on OLED. They are licensing tech from UDC through their majority ownership of JOLED. They have been losing money each quarter for over 3 years and the losses are about to increase since Apple has switched to OLED. JDI’s next big tech will probably end up on a late 2018 Xperia as Sony’s fist bezeless display.

    http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2017/20170619.html

  • Darni187

    From what reviews are of Sony OLED TV there are right up there competing with LG and offer are great display.. Isn’t it Samsung been using this technology in their smartphones for years now yet their TV’s still only LED’s.. I think when Sony move their smartphones to OLED they will be the best in the mobile sector..

  • vigneshprince

    No need for bezel less, edge to edge display exactly, just improve a lot in specs area and in camera quality, dual lens may be. Oled display preferably and excellent battery . Then it will beat other mobiles.

  • Kenneth Gibbs

    I was making an analogy. Sony not offering crossplay with Xbox is as Sony not offering Android VR. Yes Sony has the capability to allow crossplay just as they have the capability to allow for mobile VR, but in doing so the greatest benefit would be to the other companies and not Sony. Therefore it would be utterly stupid for Sony to utilize the relatively few profits they have made the last several quarters to assist MS or Alphabet. My Sony-Xbox analogy is relevant as a comparison to PSVR-Android VR. A non-relevant statement would be “OMG! I just read Hugh Hefner died at the age of 91.”

    Notice the quotes around hacking. Yes it is technically a hack. But setting the phone to always display 4k (it is a true 4k display) is actually undoing the hack Sony made; downscaling the 4k display to 1080p when not viewing a 4k photo or video. Downscaling to 4k display to 1080p is the true not normal behavior of the phone.

    “even after calibrating, Samsung are still over saturated, the brightness is off and the colors are not natural” is a true and accurate statement when you add “But this is a personal preference.” You left off the last part. A better statement would have been Sony and Samsung, in my opinion, each make very nice displays. They each have their pluses and minuses. But I prefer the Sony technology. Even after properly calibrating each display, I feel the Samsung is more over saturated than the Sony (my eyes prefer the more muted tones of the Sony), the Samsung brightness is still off and the Samsung colors are not natural (my eyes prefer what I see as the more natural true-to-life color reproduction of the Sony).

    “I don’t want to be a spoil sport but…you better get used to OLED
    displays. LCDs, just like Plasmas before, are on their way out.” I believe you meant this for someone else. Although I own 2 of one of the best LED-LCD’s ever made; W900A, the first with the quantum dots Samsung has been pushing the last several years; my latest TV is the A1E (Sony’s OLED).

  • disqus_NGOCGqGHOo

    Agree with comment below, I’d prefer edge to edge. In my mind the Xperia XA nailed it and is still an understated phone. Use that Sony as your base design for the front the back could use the XZ1 design

  • metcarded

    They needed a new bezel-less design this year.
    I was waiting for Sony to show something but they never did. Eventually I decided to upgrade my XZ2 to a LG G6. I do miss the Sony software and design, but the LG has been surprisingly good and the wide angle camera has been quite useful.

  • Alex Norris
  • monoke

    Nothing wrong with the design. Square cylinder profile is sleek and rather unique compared to others. It’s the damn bezels. Should’ve been reduced 3 iterations ago. Screen to body needs to get better, not worse. It’s what makes the design looks dated.

  • Emil Oskarsson

    Oled displays still have some major issues that needs to be solved and today’s lcd displays are really good. Wireless charging is still a gimmick and have no practical use at the moment. However I have to agree with you that Sony needs to put in optical stabilization in their next flagship device. Luckily the camera quality is still top notch on the xz series compared to the cameras found on other manufacturers flagship phones.

  • monoke

    Yep. I love Sony’s squarish cylinder profile. It’s truly a Sony signature look. It would be dreadful if they went the way of Htc and go all generic iphone styling. I feel all oems shouldn’t stray to far from their signature look, getting rid of any prestige they’ve built.

  • I think the current design language of the Xperia are great. ONLY PROBLEM is they should squeeze the bezels a bit away.

    I still love to hold somewhere (unless they’re bringing OLED where I can switch off parts of the screen to mimic bezels)

    I still love my front facing speakers. All I ask is, just a reduction in the bezels. Not much to ask.

  • monoke

    A few more mm off the bezels and that’s absolute perfection. I agree. It’s definitely more refined and yet still signature Sony! Speaker slits Ftw!!

  • Chikerz Boyž

    Need new Xperia Design, and improved Front Camera and rear camera and Music.. and like Z5 Premium and XZ Premium have HDR Support for highend..

  • Kim

    No need for major changes – just reduce the bezels a bit and upgrade the screen by 0.2″ (compact 4,8″ FHD, normal 5,4″ FHD, Premium 5,7″ 4K). Some bezel is preferred and needed to differentiate the design. I don’t find the bezel less screens with long form factor very practical or beautiful. Turn off the screen and S8 and Iphone X look exactly the same.

    Main hopes for next Xperia generation:

    A) XZ2 Compact with 4,8″ FHD OLED, 64-128 GB internal UFS storage.
    B) XZ2 with 5,4″ FHD OLED. 128 GB internal UFS storage.

    General:
    Single big camera sensor with Zeiss optics, F1.8 – will accept the hump as a design trade off. 2+ GB on on-board memory on the stacked sensor for longer slow-motion. 240 FPS@1080P and 60FPS@4K. Steadyshot OIS active on the camera sensor when shooting low-light. Manual shutter speed up to 10 sec. for night/star photography. 16+ FPS continous shooting with low shutter speed for sport shooting.

    Wireless charging and wireless Android Auto.

    High fidelity DAC.

    4 XB speakers located on sides of phone near each corner (like Ipad Pro). Due to smaller bezels probably not possible with front facing speakers. Loud and good bass.

    Better case options including dedicated underwater photo casing for up to 40m dives.

    Further integration with Alpha-series cameras, PS4, Android TVs etc.

  • jxPerience

    Current designs were okay, they just need to trim down the top amd bottom bezels and use top quality materials not a combination of plastic, aluminum and glass. Make it thinner without sacrifing the battery capacity, add some software add ons that will defenitely push xperia away from android dna. Full polish of original UI and do not depend on googles native apps. I missed the old sony, a manafucturer like no other, but now all android phones including sony are almost similar both in software and hardware. Sony needs really to stand out in the crowd.

  • umaru-chan

    You are arguing with THE dumbest people in here who think of himself as the master of OLED panel. See how he keep deflecting the point you made and keep talking. Do what other people do here – ignore him.

  • Didier Le Meur

    Bonjour ont aimerais que sa change en même temps sur les xperia z3, c’est beau de changer mais pensez vous que Sony a le droit de nous oublier, donc la solution est de nous faire parvenir les mises à jour merci

  • Myrlendingen

    Surely time for a change. But please do not become another sheep in the flock. Sonys are beautiful, with a professional, held-back although classy look. Of course I want more screen estate but I also want space for my fingers and I am not going to get me a phone where the screen falls over the edges and the whole thing feels like a used bar of soap.

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  • “Bezel-less” is design for the sake of design itself, not for the sake of the user/consumer. Bezels are good for preventing accidental touchscreen activation.

    I would rather Sony did not blindly follow another “cool” new trend and approached this wisely.

  • el_sur

    As much as I too would like a refresh, I free that going edge to edge on the screen will force the fingerprint sensor to the back of the phone. I don’t want that.

    A recent look showed a phone with the sensor on the back. My hopes aren’t high.

  • awesomeNOTweather

    It’s funny how iPhone 8, no one complains about the huge bezel….just goes to show how many people don’t have the guts to show their opinion, but to follow

  • awesomeNOTweather

    If they can get the loudness up. While maintaining the ip68 rating…well that’s all I want. Bezelless…such a fad

  • dale kana

    As long as Sony doesn’t go 2:1 it’ll be fine. Tall phones make putting in my pocket harder. Basic 16:9 with room for speakers would be great. I already have the XZ1 and it’s light years better than my XZ so an esthetic change will add to the improvement.

  • Ryuzaki Raiga
  • Ryuzaki Raiga
  • dale kana

    2:1 booooooo!

  • S.H.U.R.O.

    They must make True water resistant, smaller bezels, retina or olde display, bigger battery, and good software for cameras. That`s xperia`s way to success.

  • DBS

    “Oled displays still have some major issues that needs to be solved”

    Name them. And before you take out the “burn in” unicorn card, you might want to watch this video (https://youtu.be/bKUj4F7V1uE).
    AMOLED displays don’t have any major issues. In fact, they have a ton more advantages nowadays than LCDs have. The only thing LCD has going for it is the price of manufacturing but it’s not like companies putting out LCD phones are making the prices any lower because of it anyway.

    “Wireless charging is still a gimmick and have no practical use at the moment.”

    960fps is a gimmick. High-Res audio is a gimmick. 4K displays on phones is the ultimate gimmick.
    Just because YOU don’t find it useful doesn’t mean the rest of the market doesn’t. And the facts are that wireless charging has been around on the most popular flagship phones for ages and it’s now even on the always-late-to-the-party iPhone. So yeah. It has tons of practical use and it’s something consumers want. The G6 in Europe didn’t get it and as a result the phone failed clamorously (so much so that the V30 now has it).

    “Luckily the camera quality is still top notch on the xz series compared to the cameras found on other manufacturers flagship phones.”

    On video, yes. In fact, the video capabilities of Xperia phones are often better than the rest. Unfortunately for Sony, most people use their smartphone cameras for photos and in that department, Sony offers one of the worst cameras on the industry. The software is terrible and the lack of OIS makes taking a good photo under any light that isn’t excellent nearly impossible.
    Sony needs to add OIS but they also need to start devoting more time to the photography capabilities of their phones. They need to face the fact that people are NOT buying point-and-shoot cameras anymore and have replaced them with their phones. Sony putting out phones with crap photography cameras to not canibalize their P&S camera sales is doing them more harm than good.

  • Wolf0491

    Nooooo omnibalence for life

  • DBS

    “I was making an analogy. Sony not offering crossplay with Xbox is as Sony not offering Android VR.”

    It’s not a good analogy though. Because it’s not the same thing. Sony isn’t competing with Android VR. Sony uses Android. You CAN use a Sony phone in a Google cardboard already. The experience is just way shittier than if you use a phone prepared for it.
    Xbox is not the same platform as PlayStation. That’s why that argument is irrelevant. Your analogy would only work if both the Xbox and the PS were working on the same platform.
    So, again, since Sony can NOT prevent their phones from being used for VR, they should be taking the chance to NOT allow their phones to be shit devices for VR.

    “but in doing so the greatest benefit would be to the other companies and not Sony.”

    You seem to forget that Sony does NOT need to have their VR apps working on other Android phones. None of their Xperia apps works on non-Xperia phones (except for Xperia Lounge but that’s on purpose). If Sony built Sony VR apps for their Android phones, they would NOT be benefiting other companies AT ALL.

    “Downscaling to 4k display to 1080p is the true not normal behavior of the phone.”

    Thing is, it’s not the users who get to decide what’s the normal behaviour of the phone. It’s Sony. So, for example, if your phone runs into any screen problem, and Sony realises you reverted their “hack”, your warranty will not cover it. Because you purposefully altered the way Sony meant your phone to be used.

    “A better statement would have been Sony and Samsung, in my opinion, each make very nice displays. They each have their pluses and minuses.”

    It wouldn’t be an accurate statement. At best you could say “Sony and Samsung each make very nice displays but Sony is doing a nice display with outdated tech and Samsung is doing a better display because it’s using newer technology”.

    “I feel the Samsung is more over saturated than the Sony (my eyes prefer the more muted tones of the Sony), the Samsung brightness is still off and the Samsung colors are not natural (my eyes prefer what I see as the more natural true-to-life color reproduction of the Sony).”

    See, that’s the thing. Notice you’ve written “Î feel” and “my eyes prefer”. Just because your eyes prefer, it doesn’t mean that’s real. You base your opinion not on the technology but on your preference.
    I’m not doing that here.
    For example, I don’t notice much difference in day-to-day use when it comes to colour saturation because all my devices are using black themes with very little colour in them. So the colour saturation plays no part in me liking one or the other. The fact that LCD’s can reproduce black on the other hand, does. And it’s not even a question of “my eyes preferring”. It’s a simple fact that an LCD doesn’t provide me with the colour that I want: black.

    “I believe you meant this for someone else.”

    No, I meant it to you regarding phones. I just mentioned Plasma because it’s another known type of display that was once “the best” and it’s now gone because it’s no longer good. The same path LCD is taking. LCD’s were good as a Plasma replacement. Now they’re going away to give way to the better technology: OLED. And a decade for now we’ll probably see OLED going away to give way to something else. That’s how tech works.
    People trying to apologise for LCDs as “the better tech” make as much sense as people who tried to apologise for Plasmas when LCD came around or people who apologised for HD-DVDs when Blu-Ray came around.

  • DBS

    Apparently, from what I’ve been told here, Sony OLED TVs are using displays from LG. Which likely explains why Sony TVs are getting so good reviews.

    “Isn’t it Samsung been using this technology in their smartphones for years now yet their TV’s still only LED’s”

    This has an explanation: while Samsung rules the market of AMOLED displays, when it comes to large OLED displays, it’s LG that rules supreme. The OLED TV display market is dominated by LG much like the mobile market is dominated by Samsung.
    Samsung is therefore now trying to come up with stuff to compete with LG when it comes to large displays. And LG made the investment on mobile displays.

    To be honest though, I think LG stands in a better position to take mobile display marketshare away from Samsung than Samsung stands in taking TV displays away from LG.

  • Yasir Fawad

    I am certain, they will do it the way none other has done. It will be simply beautiful. I believe in Sony designs.

  • DBS

    “FULL ACTIVETM LCD display”

    So JDI is continuing to insist on LCDs apparently.
    No wonder they’ve been losing money and indeed, their losses will definitely increase. Everyone is switching to OLED and if JDI’s plan is to continue with LCDs, they’ll probably end up with Sony’s ever-weaker mobile division as their only customer.
    Because whilst for now they’re probably good for another year (the iPhone 7S…sorry, iPhone 8, still uses LCD), I’d imagine that by this time next year the iPhone 8S (or 9? Who knows anymore) will also switch to OLED since it’s expected that LG Display’s massive investment on their mobile OLED panels gives them strength to also mass produce OLED displays for other companies (which won’t really be good news for Samsung in the long run lol).

    And according to this https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Hit-by-Apple-s-OLED-shift-Japan-Display-eyes-deeper-overhaul?page=2

    JDI’s plans for JOLED have been postponed which means JDI’s position is growing weaker and weaker. That’s not good news for Sony.

  • washinma2424

    True what happened to the Sony Tablets? Did they just say forget it and did not tell anybody they stop making them? Just strange.

  • DBS

    “For me, phone connected to cable that is connected to outlet is not that different than phone placed on pad with a cable that is connected to outlet. Granted it is simpler and faster to place phone on pad than to plug cable into slot on phone, but it’s not that much simpler and faster.”

    Try it. Until you do, you will not understand how wrong you are ;)

    “I would bore holes into Ikea furniture, but not into the furniture I own.”

    I live in an old house with furniture dating to the XIX and XVIII century. I didn’t blink an eye. In fact, I was much more confident in doing it to my furniture than I’d be with IKEA furniture lol Because my furniture are made of real hard wood (mostly mahogany) and are far more resistent to integrity compromises just a Qi charging whole than IKEA’s composite is lol.

    “We can agree to disagree on the importance of cable versus pad with cable. Where wireless charging will have a huge impact is in cars.”

    I still maintain that you have to actually try it to understand ;)
    But I do agree on cars. I used it since 2013 on my cars but it’s an external pad made by Nokia (CR-200). But once car manufacturers start building it into the car dashboards, it’ll be far better.
    I’m just not sure they’ll do it. Not because it’s not possible but because phone manufacturers keep changing the sizes of phones and it’s complicated to build it into a stand that fits any phone (my Nokia CR-200 for example doesn’t support my S7 because the charging coil on the S7 if placed too high on the phone body and doesn’t make contact with the wireless charger coil.

  • roeshak

    About time too they started looking at the competition. About time indeed

  • iia3ezu

    You may love it, but most of the world despise it. And that is reflected in the abysmal sales numbers.

    Big bezels is not ‘prestige’, it’s disgusting.

  • Exotic|Matter

    Highly subjective. Those abysmal sales numbers have a lot to do with Sony’s marketing strategies.
    Form should follow function, not the other way around.
    I don’t find these bezels disgusting.

  • T.B.D F

    Are you ready to buy a smartphone with similar design to the competition?
    Has a smartphone with a battery to the more ridiculous capacity than this year?

    I fuck those who swear by subtlety, those who criticize the only alternative
    design of the market provided by Sony.

    If Sony only does its head, it will be so much the worse for his mouth and it will be well done !

  • Juan Carlos

    New design + Snapdragon 845 = instant buy!!

  • ymytbb .

    nice I’ve been waiting for design overhaul

  • David Horvath

    Not buying it, why would he downplay a brand new release yet to launch in it’s home market…. I call poor translation or complete misunderstanding.

  • taka03

    I liked the design at Sony Ericsson at the time. The existing design has too much space in the lower and upper frames, the new design should come. Another problem is that they use the sensor very well according to competitors to improve the camera, but they are lagging behind, hopefully we would be nice to experience changes like the 2018 Aperture value 1.8 and Sony two rear cameras.

  • Biancoceleste

    This guy gets it!

  • Biancoceleste

    Then feel free to not purchase what you deem ‘disgusting’
    There is an ocean of iclones out there of all prices. You shouldn’t be complaining at all.

    Let the appreciators of classy aesthetic enjoy the little of it that remains.

  • RockStar2005

    Exactly mixedfish! No iPhone clone garbage!

    I am definitely interested to see where they go with the design language. I for one hope they continue in doing what they did with the XZ1 and also make their future phones with a metal unibody. They’ve always done glass-backs, so I think since everyone else is now (even HTC now with the U11! and iPhones too!), then they SHOULDN’T.

  • Simon Tang

    I’ve been a Sony user since 2002, and I love the Omnibalance design. I never have any skin or covers on any of my phones because it completely obscures the feel of design of the phone. I admit that I do drop my phones, but I still don’t want a case on it. Bezel-less? I’m currently on my fourth Z5, the first being a standard single SIM and Duals for the next 3, and I think the sides of the XA1 is perfect, but please, stop the obsession with DreamWorks’ Megamind and Family Guy’s James William Bottomtooth III on the phones. The boxy design is excellent as it separates an Xperia from the rest. Please don’t try to be like the rest. Bezels that are curved to form and/or be part of the edge will only give us more breakage. Corners, please, not too round like the rest. I think the designs of G6 and the V30 are almost there, maximum screen, minimal bezels. Include that with Sony’s signature boxy design, and we’ll have a beautiful Xperia that’s up to date in its design and still stands on its own without looking like every other phone.

    And bring back the dual SIM and dedicated SDcard slot!

  • monoke

    I don’t think u comprehend what I wrote. I love the square shape, and round frame of the current design. Not the upper /lower bezels. And imo, even with the big bezels, Sony’s design have always been classier than other oems, which either look like toys or bar of soap! Lmao!!

  • jamie evans

    XA looks great for sure

  • (C):stem

    A design change is necessary, indeed, but not only that but other things need to be implemented, like OLED displays, fingerprint scanner activated in the US (it’s pretty stupid to sell a flagship phone without fingerprint scanner in a country of heavy smartphone buyers) and two cameras. The bezless display ain’t that necessary, but it would help if they want to sell.

    Otherwise, if they announce a “new language design” but keep going in the same direction stubbornly, they will kill the mobile line soon, and we don’t want that. But we are a minority, actually the world outside doesn’t really care that much about Sony smartphones. Sad but true. Xperias are really good, but aren’t great enough to make the world turn its head and look at them.

  • (C):stem

    Do you know that Sony created the design of the iPhone 4? But at the end it remained only as a concept because they decided not to use it. Bad decision! Apple somehow got this on its hands… And the rest is history.
    I hate iOS and ifags but I must accept that that phone was beautiful.

  • (C):stem

    Finally, someone who understands it!

  • Kim

    Agree with most points, but I am not sure dual camera is needed or wanted. The requested “bokeh” effect is software (fake) anyway, and should be possible to achieve by lowering the aperture to f1,6/1,8. Due to high resolution sensor Sony should still be able to have 2x zoom without significant loss of detail. I would prefer they stay with single camera setup, but keep optimizing sensor, optics, stability and software.

  • Karan Dutt

    Too late, already got the note 8!

  • raju

    Then why people asking fast updates ??

  • So0o

    Wtf….. no bezels:>>>> i want 5,8″ 4k triluminios hdr amoled or something like that :DDDD stereo speaker and ip68… il buy that new and brand SONY XPERIA XZ2. You guys remember the sony xperia ZL? That was the first phone whit that small bezels… and who cares???? If its not samsung or iphone nobody cares…. f|_|CK that

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  • abvc

    I love the current design. Coming from z3c i love how xz1c feels exactly the same. And i love the square look. If Sony is looking at new design, i hope it improve it further, and not follow the curve like every other phones.

  • jmaxim917

    Same design, half the bezels.

  • EPGuest

    Didn’t the tablet market pretty much die entirely? I still love the Z3 Tablet Compact (much more than our new Samsung something), but whenever I walk past the tablets in a store, I feel like they’re the same as 3 years ago.

  • Stergios Papoutsoglou

    As long as it’s not a copy and it’s distinctive I don’t mind changing the design

  • 2sfhim

    No, it was an Apple concept answering the question “what would Sony do?” because Steve Jobs appreciated what Sony did.

  • SkyMeow

    I just upgrade from Z5P to Note 8. I love my new phone but I do miss front stereo speakers. Sony really need to keep up. Make me come back to Xperia again. And PLEASE implement OIS already. I don’t understand what is so hard about it. Don’t forget about RAW support. Please more powerful amp and dac for headphone. Even Note 8 sound far better than my Z5P. Sony make good camera and audio products but these strong components don’t seem to work well with Xperia phones.

  • André Bilodeau

    I like the current design. But I would trim 2-3mm off up and down bezel and I’d like a return of the speaker like on the Z2/Z5. I also better like 16/9 ratio for screen. I would also like to have a another camera for better low light situation. Maybe one for poor lightning and another one for good lighting? Would that make sens? And FM radio also.

  • AllanKafka

    Although I know that it not a priority, I would love Sony to make something similar to the SPen. Or at least bring back the Z Ultra concept, with support for drawing on the screen with a pencil. It was great and it’s a pity that they stopped supporting it.

  • Yes and so people are not purchasing. Which is not going to be good for sony in long run.

  • rajat

    Keeping a lot expectations this time from SONY. Xperia Z3+, Z5 Premium and XZ1 kind of piqued my interest. Rest all looked same. Will definitely buy if it is a standout from the crowd.
    P.S. :- Still using Xperia ZL and in love with it.

  • psychopunk

    Here’s hoping Sony goes with that Xperia Y concept that was leaked back in 2015. Also bezelless. And keeping the headphone jack. Also having a reasonable sized model, Im thinking like 5.5″ bezelless.

    Bezelless isn’t just a fad. The point is that you have more screen in a smaller phone.
    I personally want a single hand usable phone with the most possible screen.

  • Biancoceleste

    If we all aspired to purchase the same things, it’d be a very boring and bland place.

    Individualism is a good thing and should be complemented, not looked down upon.
    Not everyone wants elongated, awkward looking phones with no bezels.
    Some folks like to look deeper and beyond the current fads and buzzwords. This is a good thing.

  • Don’t deny that.. Sony should maintain its uniqueness and character but subtle changes are required to keep up with time. Lot of companies and products have died because they chose not to advance with time. And I’m not speaking about this long display. I chose not to elaborate what all sony is lacking behind because I’m exhausted of writing it so many times. Battery is nightmare, camera needs drastic improvement, general performance could be better. That omnibalance design has to change, old SE designs were great, best in class, why did that change.

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  • Stefanus Paulus

    Sadly, this happened when I use my junior’s Samsung phone to capture pict and the bezel-less design keep giving ‘false input’ when I was holding it.

  • xtess3ractx

    While I hope they minimize bezels, I hope they retain the front firing speakers and power fingerprint sensor. I’d like them to incorporate some more clever design like integrating the sim tray/micro SD tray into the volume rocker. Lastly the camera, screen and processor all need to be top notch.

  • Ethan ‘blaze’ Parker

    That was iPhone 1. lol

  • Erdélyi Gábor

    I’d love to see new design similar to the iconic Arc (S). Imho that was one, if not the most beautiful phone design ever on the market.

  • azzido

    Also software needs upgrade as stock Android is sooo booring… And each xperia has exactly same looking ui, how long they want to make people bored with it? There is no xperia style, there is no style at all, just plain, empty, sadistic droid. Nothing to like in the gui.

  • azzido

    I love glass back.

  • RockStar2005

    I do too azzido, but 2018 should be a time for change for Sony. They can make glass-back OR metal unibody phones looks super classy if they want to. So maybe they should focus on that for a while? The XZ1 is metal unibody, but given that it’s almost 2018 anyway, I say just keep this style going for a while! lol

  • Gradha Putra

    I hope they still using the squarish body but obviously the 18:9 screen on it, and minimize the bezels like the ZL, of course

  • dbjungle

    Please don’t move to rounded garbage.

  • dbjungle

    Sony’s selling issues have nothing to do with bezels. This has been proven by the success of the iPhone.

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