Xperia XZ1 in clearest leak yet; most specs confirmed

by XB on 16th August 2017

in Rumours


The clearest in-the-wild pictures of the Xperia XZ1 have leaked, showing Sony’s latest flagship from most angles. If you were hoping for a big departure in terms of design, then you will be disappointed, as the handset looks like a smaller version of the Xperia XZ Premium. The leak confirms the side mounted power button fingerprint sensor and a new placement for NFC (next to the rear camera sensors).

Other specs confirmed by the marketing sticker on the front device point to a Snapdragon 835 chipset, 64GB internal storage, IP65 and IP68 dust and water resistance and a 5.2-inch HDR-enabled display. The camera will the same as the Xperia XZ Premium, with a 19MP Motion Eye camera with 960 frames per second slow motion video and a 13MP front-facing camera. We’ll bring you more information at the official unveil on 31 August at IFA 2017.

Via Sony Xperia Ailesi.

Thanks 陳德晃, Ferhat, Samuel, Svnjay and Yut!

  • KarFar

    while(0) {
    If (MWC) wait(IFA);
    else wait(MWC)
    }

  • Spontex
  • fried_egg

    Screw waiting for the IFA Sony… launch it now ;)

  • fried_egg

    Moving the NFC to the top edge is great… the Z5 has been really hard to find the sweetspot on Verifone & ingenico terminals sometimes.

  • BGDoesGaming

    im sorry but with those bezel im not buying it :( i guess i will have to continue using xperia S for lot longer T_T

  • LazAndKor

    What is the 3D creator?

  • soulhunter

    HAH! i just bought my xz premium 2 weeks ago and loving it!

  • bobeobi gzigzigzeo

    That bezels are getting larger!

  • Vitali

    So don’t buy it then

  • Kurumineko狂三猫

    then get the XA1 Ultra

  • Squirtle 1

    thats the real question !

  • Priit Toobla

    whooooaa.. UGLY! I’ve been very long time xperia user, and have liked the design up until Z5.. .after that, those round corners/sides came up, those ugly bezels… nope, not for me, gotta find something else.

  • Timothy Michael Ong

    hoping for a nicer dac and louder overall sound…

  • Zahirul Islam

    Sony is finished. Now a days their phone desine look like a shit.

  • LazAndKor

    Well. Since the XZ1 has exactly the same hardware as the Premium, it might also get this 3d Creator? Could it be something like AR effect?

  • LazAndKor

    Me too! Deep-sea black is amazing.

  • BGDoesGaming

    that’s exactly what i said u donkey

  • BGDoesGaming

    bazel on that is even bigger! i will wait for xz 2 which will have upgraded soc and probably small bazel design

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Instead of releasing these phones they should’ve released Successor to Xperia Z4 tablet with 4K HDR(OLED panel)/SD835 with same foot print with bigger display just like their A1e Bravia TV. I wouldn’t think twice to buy that tablet. Anyways everyone loves the compact but with huge bezels it looks meh.

  • Liam Hethershaw

    What are these? If they are antennas then the front and rear faces might be the same piece of metal that loops around the edges?And that means no more plastic https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/703d0e1dd6e03e1fc4e69fb1b6e40a7ccec42d08f70a92dff86882d5e9f9600a.png

  • Jaissal S

    I personally haven’t been too excited about the latest designs. I love the design of my Z5! I will see how it feels in the hand and see. Have they completely stop making new tablets now? People don’t always need tablets these days. Too expensive. I’d love a Sony tablet in the style of Z5!

  • Ates

    Yes no mora plastic all phone is made from alcaleido metal

  • Gahead

    Looks like it’s gonna be a full metal frame now judging by those plastic antenna gates, I’m impress by how Sony wouldn’t like to design the antenna gates like most of the competition (iPhone like or HTC like design) but there’s room for improvement in the front, no need for it to be bezelless, just reduce it, for others who want a dual camera setup, seems like Sony Mobile will have a hard time, it will like ridiculous if they put a dual camera + their rgbc IR/Laser and /flash, OIS?? People forget it, this is Sony, that 5 axis will remain forever much like their Alpha’s, I just wish the sensor could really move just like their mirrorless.

  • Spontex
  • But linked to Playstation? I don’t think so… Could be a dedicated chip for PS4 remote play?

  • So new focus on PS4, new HDR screen and a weird nfc placement. But it seems that’s another new sensor next no nfc

  • Serdar Aytamaner

    My previous phone was a Z5P and I was very happy with it. Now I have a XZP and it feels definitely better in the hand thanks to the rounded sides. Z5P’s flat sides feels sharp now.

  • Alex Norris
  • Tablets are in decline! The only company that reinvents in Microsoft, with the Surface line.

  • Alex Norris
  • Muhammad Isman Junian Rahman

    No lanyard holes?

  • looks like something from the early 2000s

  • Thariq Mohammed

    Exactly.
    4 antenna lines.
    2 on left frame
    1 on right frame
    1 on the back

  • Ruthjkillion

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  • Sony mobile just never realise that smartphone is the flagship of electronic devices.

    Sony makes
    The best cameras
    The best TVs
    The best audio gadgets

    But can’t do the same for smartphones??
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/171c6cb2a97955aac1455b3d1a65a214d867920a764d02445c0bc1414ef5b284.gif

    I think i’m gonna stay with LG V20 now, but might replace it with V30 tho

  • Pardal Linho

    Can someone please explain to me point of this phone? This is EXACTLY the same phone Sony already has right now with EXACTLY the same design and EXACTLY the snake hardware? What is the point of many the same phone again and again and again again? And the names that don’t go past Z X ZX XZ.. does this make any sense? Just about every year since the first Z, these phones are always all the same and even the changes within models’ internals are increasingly similar. I positively can’t comprehend what is the point of the XZ1 over the current model..

  • Vitali

    I said it hour before you and stop liking your own comments.. U donkey

  • Julius Koroll

    Arent these the same specs as the XZ right now? What is wrong with these people? Sorry but the design was outdated on the Premium (I love it and have it) but they have to go with the market instead of staying where they are. And also: HDR with 4k? These are microadjustments to the last XZ and no one-year-later-upgrade.

  • Robin Singh

    Sony take a fucking break. Do you just forget that you released same piece of crap brick xz premium a while ago and now you releasing another one with exactly same spec and design. Take a fucking break or retire like vaio did and concentrate on your cameras and tvs.
    Btw i used Xperia s, z, z3, z5 now xzs.

  • Jays

    Let’s just appreciate Sony make the effort to move the volume back up, and the NFC back to the back, bezel is going to be there if u wish to have dual front stereo speaker unless no one gonna miss them

  • Dany

    Still no AMOLED??? Seriously? It’s 2017 common!

  • Kpu Ckuaw

    No Sony, no!!!!!!! Is the same of a xperia XZs

  • Talos the Robot

    If you didn’t believe the marketing gimmicks about the bezeless displays and touched the XZ Premium in your hand and had some time with the phone you would change your mind. What you see in videos and photos on the internet is not the same with impression you have when you get the phone.

  • Talos the Robot

    Android and iOS Tablets are dead. Only Windows tablets make sense if you use programs like Autocad, Photoshop etc. Now i use my XZ Premium i don’t raraly use the the tablet if i want to watch videos or browsing the internet.

  • Talos the Robot

    Me too and i like the 4K display.

  • Alex Norris

    A company that never knew how to make smartphones. Sony-mobile it`s a patient who stay in coma, long 5 years.

    PS. V30 will be great like smartphone with powerful camera

  • Hideg Jenő Péter

    (can’t make a spaces in disqui, so here’s C#)
    while;
    if (MWC && IFA)
    {
    . Console.WriteLine(“IFA”);
    . {
    . else
    . }
    . Console.WiriteLine(“wait MWC”);
    }

  • Geralt

    Beautiful

  • Igor Helal

    I have to admit that the name XZ1 is ugly, odd. Why put these numbers? XA1, XA1 ULTRA, etc

  • No. XZ is a lot different from this. Only the Premium have the same hardware. But the difference is basically the screen and the 3D Creator

  • Moisés

    I want the black dual sim.

  • Piotr Zet

    Xperia XZ Premium is better

  • Moisés

    Oled from JDI or LG just in 2018, probably IFA.

    OLED WRGB > amoled

  • Juan Carlos

    For me it’s fine! I like the design. The back is all metal now, as well as the sides, looks like one piece (the back and sides).

  • Moisés

    XZ1 x XZs ( what we know so far)

    – S835 x S820
    – UFS 2.1 x emmc 5.1
    – Bluetooth 5.0 x 4.2
    – 64GB x 32/64GB
    – 3000 or 3200 mAh x 2900
    – Nfc on back x nfc on front
    – HDR x SDR

    XZ1 seems to be full metal . Android 8 is possible but not 100% yet.

    XZ Premium is the premium of XZ and XZs.
    XZ1/ XZ1c belong to new cycle (2017-18)

    Lets wait Sony so we can know what else phone has.
    Same happen to Z3 and Z4, people believe they are almost same but the list of different things inside them were huge.

  • Denis Dardymov

    Fuck thr frames, the phone is sex, and i’ll buy it for sure!

  • Denis Dardymov

    Glass and huge ? No, thanks!

  • lolop

    Sad to say this but I don’t think I’ll be staying with Sony if this is what their flagship offerings will be. They just cannot keep up with Samsung or Apple anymore.

  • Waleed Salman

    Seriously Sony.!
    Nothing new
    Design just copy paste nothing change
    I love this company but they have to get a new designed Manger.!

  • Piotr Zet

    It’s yours opinion.

  • hansip

    seems like no more 3d curved glasses here (easier to find tempered glass protector).. back to Z3 design combined with loop design. i hope smaller top and bottom (and the sides.. oh the sides) bezel though.. oh well..

  • xXENDER FREAKXx

    Another smartphone that got almost no change in terms of specifications. Another “XPERIA XZs”

  • Moisés

    I use phone for regular apps, tablet for games..

  • Moisés

    XA1 Ultra has 76% of screen.
    XZs for example has 71%

  • monoke

    I truly hope the Mi Mix 2 looks like that concept design cuz that’s my last hope for this year. Even tho I’ve always preferred Sony and their snappy minimal skin of android the most, I want a device that reflects contemporary times. The majority of Oems are moving forward in their designs between this year and next while Sony seems to be living 4 years behind. This is truly sad cuz I do love Sony and and really want them to succeed.

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    tablet are better for videos more than phone

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    sony never knew how to make smartphone???? seriously??. i don’t mind if u said sony designer are stupid because not understanding about market demand but stating an opinion about sony didn’t know how to make smartphone is basically a recipe of lawsuit in real life

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    remember 3 years with same design with Z family 2013-2015, x will become same design 2016-2018.

  • skrug

    what does 64gb storage and SD835 relate to water resistance?

  • NinJy

    Looks cheaper than XZP.

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    they just list the feature just like cars ads

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    why not upgrade it to ZL?

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    muslim shouldn’t use bad language

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    “no change in terms of specifications.” design the same but with different hardware.

    go look at XZs spec and XZ1. i’m lazy to copy paste them here

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    they running out of idea. previous is Z, next gen will be Y

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    i don’t think 2018, OLED is pricy especially the need with 4K. even sony A1 OLED tv is damn high

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    actually its has different hardware minus SoC

  • Ryuzaki Raiga

    i love them large

  • Alex Norris

    If they knew how to make smartphones, they would have long time been competitors for Samsung, Apple and LG. But the problem is that xperia smartphones have been a lot of marriage, especially on Z3 Z4. Therefore, they are not so popular, so on them every year, less and less interest. If earlier, they had one trump card – Design, then looking at the new XZ1, which copies the predecessor that was released a year earlier, there are no more questions … I’m not even talking about old problems with bad camera software, with old aperture without OIS, 5 years, they could not raise to a high level cameras. The same applies to their so-called stereo speakers, the benefits of which, nope.
    So, if early people used to say that Sony is just a design, now they has not this trump.

  • JC

    Pics or it didn’t happen.

  • Alvin

    Finally, a full metal x series after XZ Premium.

  • jxPerience

    O M G, its ugly :(

    I used to be a xperia lover, all of my family was using xperia phones, but since the debut of xperia X we all turned down xperia option and choose iphone 7 instead. Im still crossing my fingers for the upcoming xperia, but if this pic is legit, there is no way to return to my beloved brand. Goodbye sony you will never learn :(

  • Lam Mbang

    i have to admit that bezelless is sexy..but actually hate when have to case it in order to protect it from any impact. so what the point is beeing bezelless…a lot of my friend that use S7 and S8 complain that their phone is crack when accidentally crush the wall or the edge of the table…

  • Namako

    They didn’t change anything about the bezels, which means that I’m probably switching to something else. It’s what bothers me the most about my Z5 so I want something which is better usable with only one hand and what looks better.

  • Prince Mensah

    Yes…you’re right ..you sir, have made my day

  • xXENDER FREAKXx

    What I mean is it is almost the same as XPERIA XZ PREMIUM, with some improvements, which also almost the same as upgrade from XPERIA XZ to XPERIA XZs

  • Alfino Setya

    Wel, well, well been using XZ for a while and think I’m going to make a switch to Samsung, probably waiting for Note8. Thought they would go with the new design but… It’s been a long time and Sony still came up with the same old designs with minor changes every year, what’s going on with them? Gonna switch to SGN8 by next Sept (or Dec) tell me when Sony come out with radical changes in term of design next year. Here’s hoping they would improve some aspects like design and camera and it would be better if they will make an Xperia with OLED HDR display (I started to love OLED since I bought LG E6 TV). And don’t get me wrong I’m impressed with XZP but the size of the bezels itself could’ve been thinner tho and for the low-light itself I was expecting more from them.

  • Vitali

    The real question is what about the empty space near the two sensors and the NFC.. Is it more more sesnors? I don’t believe Sony would make it just empty.. Does anyone know?

  • BGDoesGaming

    thats because of edge to edge display of xultra… top and bottom bazel are still massive!

  • BGDoesGaming

    what did you say hour before me? your comment makes no sense what so ever. and you check who likes comments and what not you stupid fuck, if i liked my own comment you would see my name there.

  • BGDoesGaming

    i will upgrade to iphone 8

  • ew210

    that would be a downgrade

  • BGDoesGaming

    lool at least they are trying new design… sony has become stagnant in design department since leaving ericsson.

  • vigneshprince

    expecting a lot, big disappointment. why sony why. :-(

  • kaostheory

    Obviously you’ve never had a Samsung. The Z was a great phone. Sony made the most stable phones with the most hardware. Held the best screen ratio for a major manufacturer with ZL. Waterproofing, best wet finger tracking. The Z3 has a better screen than the S5 and 6! I’m still using my Z3 and had a S6 given to me, the S6 with the faster processor lags and the screen is terrible with the colour changing if you tilt it slightly and unreadable in the sun. I agree their a little behind of late on design but there’s definitely a reason for the fans. Not that I want any of the new phones right now but I’d still pick stereo speakers and slow mo over slimmer bezel,because in the end it’s about what the phone can do over looks.

  • kaostheory

    Is it just me or can you see a circle on both sides?

  • Dany

    Well, sure OLED would even better

  • ShreN

    I honestly have no idea why sony can’t make the bezels smaller like on the Z5 Compact. For me I think that the screen/bezel ratio on the Z5C is just fine, but after seeing the XZ Premium and XZ in person I’m actually disappointed by how backwards it looks.

  • ShreN

    Enjoy those massive bezels lmao

  • ShreN

    Which is shared by many people…

  • ShreN

    How is your Xperia S even running still O_O

    It’s funny since your current phone is as thick as a brick, and you’re just in denial about bezels which you haven’t even seen in person yet.

  • ShreN

    Are you deluded?

    Your Xperia S was the first generation of phones released without Ericsson and you’re saying that Sony’s design department have been stagnent since before then (despite the complete design reworks that occured during the years that followed)?

    If anything they were stagnant when working with Ericsson, making and releasing a new phone every month that looked identical to the one before.

  • ShreN

    Is it that hard to understand that design is subjective?

    Some people think that metal (like on the power button) looks nicer in it’s natural silver colour then some painted blue for example. I guess you take yourself way too seriously, shown by the stupidity of that video.

  • ShreN

    “The same applies to their so-called stereo speakers, the benefits of which, nope.”

    I don’t really understand what you meant by that. Could you explain?

  • ShreN

    People will never understand until they use a Sony flagship themselves.

    While everyone is scrambling to buy a new phone every 2 years because of lag and battery deterioration people who bought a Z2 and Z3 several years ago are using their phones without any of these issues.

    If HTC made a more appealing phone recently and the Pixel wasn’t stupidly expensive in the UK I’d be fine jumping ship from my Z5C. But as it stands the lifespan of my phone will far outclass that of any Samsung or LG flagship today (since custom roms and software support is very lacking for LG’s smartphones compared to HTC’s and Sony’s).

  • ShreN

    “desine” “like a shit”

    probably wassn’t ever intelligent enough to like an understated design anyways

  • ShreN

    THIS. So much.

  • ShreN

    IR/Laser Autofocus + RGB colour sensor for the camera.

  • ShreN

    Circle on the top is a oval. And it’s a proximity sensor.

  • ShreN

    Why is AMOLED needed to make a good phone?

  • The One

    So what’s the point of this device’s existence if it has the EXACT SAME SPECS as the XZ Premium (minus the 4k Screen)? Why release a device later in the year that has no improvements over the predecessor?

  • The One

    It’s basically the XZP without a 4K display. How is that an improvement?

  • dko3tgk

    Make the phone 1-2mm thicker and reduce the side bezels completely, and reduce the top and bottom bezels by 50%. That would make me want to buy it. Until this happens I’m starting to look towards Galaxy S8 and Huawei P10-11
    Also bring back dual sim and SD card simultaneously, please!

  • Gohan

    Wow I still have my Xperia SL which is now being used by my dad. Gives him 2 days battery and still works like a charm.
    My regular device is Z3c.

  • BGDoesGaming

    xperia Z series is when sony had their 100% non ericsson design. go look at all the sony phones and sony ericsson phones on gsmarena. sony design looks almost exactly the same with slight variation. SE on the other hand had different design every single year and innovation. from curved back of xperia arc to metal frame of xperia sp they all had something different about them. cant say the same for Z and XZ

  • Moisés

    Front cam needs space… Same size of G6 rear cam.

  • Moisés

    For ppl who do not want bigger screen nor 4K.

  • Moisés

    Loop design has 11 months

  • Moisés

    Any phone looks cheaper than XZ Premium…

  • Moisés

    It is a replacement for XZ, not XZP.

  • Moisés

    X and XZ look very different.
    Still complain.
    I believe people want all brands to look the same, different just on the inside.

  • Alex Norris
  • Moisés

    Oled is getting cheaper.

  • Moisés

    Z5c has 71% screen.
    Compacts are just old C phones, bezels are not equal.

  • zip

    I don’t get why people like bezel-less phones. I prefer phones with bezels you can grip with your fingers instead of the screen. Also good for gaming. I’ll never buy a bezel-less phone.

  • KarFar
  • azzido

    Where are those who claimed there will be new design?

    There is nothing new, it is just weaker version of XZ Premium without 4K panel.

    In addition ugly metal instead of the glass on the back. Nothing new, this company stands in the same place in terms of design and hardware while competition innovate, market and therefore outperform in sales.

    I wonder what in addition has been cut off from the software.
    Good luck with this product and your software treatment.

    Distortion included as preorder bonus as well?

  • BGDoesGaming

    because i took care of it? i had Z3 and Z5 which i sold since i got great offer for them. but it’s time i upgrade… want xzp but kinda expensive and was hoping for xz1 to have new smaller bezel design but looks like i might have to wait for a while.

  • azzido

    It seems they just fired all designers. Maybe some day they will hire new ones, as good as the ones from ericsson or same ones.

  • Moisés

    This HMD phone has capacitive buttons.
    It needs bezel

  • azzido

    That’s why they should release tablet with core i7 and windows 10, oled 12″ 4K touch screen with better jeyboard, not bad one like for Z4 tablet.

  • azzido

    Horrible nfc placement. This black strip on the back looks extra large and bad now.

  • comme des garcons

    Those bezels are ugly…

  • Francis Troy Fabrigas

    Just like you, except the bezels serve some good purpose, unlike you. Have a great day :D

  • dko3tgk

    I don’t like completely bezel-less phones. But no side bezels make it easier to use one handed. And top and bottom bezels don’t need to be so big. a 40-50% reduction in top an bottom bezels make the phone alot smaller without making the phone unnecessarily big. Just look at the Z Compacts, or the old ZL. Proof that bezels don’t need to be huge.

  • dko3tgk

    I’ll be happy to have whatever front cam the S8 has in their tiny top bezel. I just refuse to believe that with today’s tech, bezels still need to be so big. I think it’s lazy engineering or just cost reduction.
    I’m ok with a 1-2 mm thicker phone to get rid of side bezels and cut top and bottom bezels. Really what I want is an updated ZL form factor.

  • Francis Troy Fabrigas

    And I’m still here, thinking what the actual fuck does small bezel offer in our lives.

    Like yeah it’s got massive bezels, yet it still works as a phone, and that is one enough reason to buy the phone.

    Are you going to impress others with the so-called “futuristic” design of your phone? Or are you going to pick up some girls using it?

    Whatever the fucking reason is, it is stupid, except when it can save one’s life or fix all environmental problems in this world.

  • JevyJav

    No edge to edge display… Dead on arrival!

  • Moisés

    Bottom bezel of XA Ultra is shorter than top bezel.
    L1 has 75% of screen.

    Loop design makes bezel a bit bigger than rounded corners of Z phones.

  • Eljugadordelaplaya

    It s time for Sony designers to take risks. Always the same design since the Z5….
    Xperia UI looks like Android Vanilla, we lose some features ( Xperia Keyboard, Track Id, Radio…).
    Sony flagships are not powerfulers than its competitors, have not the best stamina of the market, have not the best photo’s quality…
    I m glad of my XZ but please Sony wake up !! You re able to build the best smartphone of the market

  • Could it be Sony´s 3D Facial recognition?

  • Afshin Rabiei

    Bigger bezel means a bigger device overall it can have a bigger screen! No need for bezels anymore, it just goes to show how tone deaf sony has become during years that they killed their only successful line! and then are toying with cylinder shaped cheap looking bullshit/brick design language that is outdated as fuck! I am really angry at idiots that are making this company more boring each day… as a loyal Sony fan I would like to say this to their designers! shove this design up your asses sideways you backward nerds!

  • dragonsneeze

    Doesn’t this mean it’ll never enter the loop?

  • lolop

    I don’t understand why some people get so hostile when you criticise a product, it’s as if they see it as an attack on themselves. I’ve had Sony phones since T300 but they are really falling behind the competition now.

  • BGDoesGaming

    no clue…. probably because of insecurity, they feel attached to devices which has become part of themselves given how empty their life is, they feel the need to defend it at all cost just like how they would defend themselves. fanboys like that is why business go bust, their hostile behavior turns away a possible customer. there is a reason why sony is selling less and less phones year over year compare to 3-4 years ago. people don’t care for fastest phones on the market “xzp” they care about cool factor and when you compare s8 or upcoming iphone 8, note 8 and lg v30 vs xz1 are you telling me people will say “oh this phone has big bezel so i will have me a sony thanks!”

    maybe people should ask why we don’t have tvs with giant bezels anymore. slim bezel makes everything immersive

  • lolop

    You’re deluded mate. It’s the future. It’s going to become standard soon enough. In the future the entire thing will be a screen. These bezels are unacceptable in 2017.

  • kido

    So whats the difference between this and the xzs, only the snapdragon 835?

  • Vinny Conforto

    I am disappointed. It doesn’t have to be bezel-free, but bezels don’t have to be that huge either. This phone looks so ugly and dated to me

  • Vinny Conforto

    agreed. same exact boring design over and over again

  • Santos

    “OMG I’m disappointed”
    “It’s still the same design”
    Stop crying, these models are still for 2017, a new design DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. If you want something new, wait for the MWC2018 (where all flagships are announced ). It is quite obvious, you already know the cycle of Sony phones, do not be silly

  • Warren Chang

    yes, that would be interesting to know, i hope their walkman technology s-master is implemented

  • Phil Gym

    wow bezels make enormous statements here while screens make statements for other companies lol shame

  • Warren Chang
  • Phil Gym

    You’re exactly right man

  • Biancoceleste

    I prefer the design of the XZ premium.

  • Wiching

    China phone design have much better than Sony phone design ….. disappointed now days Sony phone designer.

  • DBS

    IF it has OIS and a good camera (which Xperias haven’t had in years) and an AMOLED screen, I’m getting the Compact. I’m willing to compromise on the lack of wireless charging and a black theme (I’ll root the damn phone) IF those three things are added. Otherwise nop.

  • Wiching

    hopefully XZ1 Price not more than USD 600.

  • ymytbb .

    Turning its back on bezelless trend, Sony seems to have lost its way… Many people will ditch Xperia phones over S8 G6 iPhone8

  • Gahead

    Are there still Compact phone lovers like me? I have a Z5C, as much as I love Sony, looks like the XZ1 wouldn’t be much hype compared to the XZ Premium judging the upcoming competition like the iPhone 8/7s,Note 8, LG V30, Pixel 2 and the now Nokia 8, Sony’s main weakness is the front design, I’m fine with the rear, even if it’s not a dual camera, much like I stated above, they should’ve redesign the front (not to be bezelless but reduce it), looks like the XZ1 Compact and XZ Premium would be the main key for it to sell well

  • ymytbb .

    yes they are unnecessary. way too big

  • Wiching

    If XZ1 still F2.0, mostly still can’t competition with other maker. plus so-so only design, only can sell if play cheaper price.

  • ymytbb .

    Have you seen any leak pics of the XZ Compact?

  • Gahead

    Nope, not a single one but I hope the bezels would be like the Z5 Compact because the X-Compact’s bezel is much larger maybe due to the extra sensors and the speaker grille

  • soulhunter

    seriously? i dont mind it at all.

  • vmxr

    this color ruining the look of the phone a white or blue would look more beautiful

  • Alex Norris

    Design, is subjective, but when 10 years show the same, it looks funny and especially with such huge bezels, that grow and grow every year, instead of decreasing, it causes of people, ridicule and disgust. When you are in a whole year, did not want to change anything and a year later you show us a 100% copy, then my attitude to them will be the same dismissive! All their mobile unit, it’s time to go to the dump.

    They have nothing to do in the mobile industry, they only dishonor the Sony name

  • LazAndKor

    Actually, my XZP has the Xperia Keyboard available to download from the Play Store. I disabled Swiftkey and just downloaded the Xperia Keyboard! My sisters XA cant though.

  • iia3ezu

    Nokia 8 has just been released, with very similar specs, no waterproofing, but it has OZO surround audio and near stock Android.

    Nokia 8 has a price, let’s see if Sony will price Xperia XZ1 out of the market.

  • pt020

    Have the ZX but mostly I still use my Z3 Compact,even after 3 years looks and works as new…
    Will get me the next new compact next year.

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  • Moisés
  • Moisés

    £550

  • Moisés

    CPU, GPU, HDR screen, bluetooth, nfc placemente, 3D creator, maybe android 8 out of box..

  • Look pal, I was a long time sony smartphone user, been using sony since the age of sony ericsson to xperia M5.

    Here is the history of sony phones that I used
    – SE k320i
    – SE k610i
    – SE W395
    – SE W595
    – SE Hazel
    – SE Vivaz
    – SE Xperia Arc S
    – Xperia Z
    – Xperia Z Ultra
    – Xperia Z2 –> the one that I loved the most because it was truly the best phone in its time
    – Xperia M5

    But then I stopped using sony phones and switch brand to LG, why? Truthfully “Dat Bezel” is not my main reason. Hell, bezels never was a disturbance to me.

    The main reasons why I left sony are:
    – underwhelming camera experience: poor image quality in low light, no true manual mode experience like LG or even Samsung, etc.
    – ever since Z2 was launched, sony stopped giving their best to their smartphone. Starting from battery, chipset, RAM, multimedia, display (with the exceptions of XZ Premium & Z5 Premium of course. But any sony phones with full HD resolutions even in 2017.. failed to catch up to Z2’s display quality)
    – Series of unnecessary phones at hefty price tag: Z3 Plus, Xperia X & X Performance, X Compact, XZs. Totally stupid business strategy!

    And now, the phones that can really satisfy my needs are LG flagship smartphones. They have amazing camera, both in quality & experience. Lovely features for music lovers such as Hi-fi Quad Dac, perfect phone for content creators

  • Aiden Pearce

    Sony designers must be using their phones from back!! Thats is why they change back design but front is generations old.
    At least reduce the damn bezels or use it for better purpose. The audio through such speakers is as tiny in the name of water proofing. Japanese company might be saved from shutting down but they sure will some day if they continue this shitty design..

  • jamie evans

    Specs?

  • Moisés

    It is high end compact..
    Just like its big brother

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    ooooo I wouldn’t mind that either. Really good idea tbh. I would totally buy that as well.

  • jamie evans

    What’s the battery size?

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    Well it would’ve been cooler to release one in full 4K just like they did with tab Z4 I really wanted to get that but SD810 held me back. Accessories came with the tab was good. I have Z2 tab it’s a solid tab. Till today no hiccups, Only thing bugs me 16gb cause I got the LTE model.
    And then again I am eagerly waiting and looking at what they’re doing with Xperia Touch cause it looks promising, but too expensive.

  • Moisés

    2600 or 2800… Still unknown.

  • seattle tech

    Sonys 2018 flagship

  • seattle tech

    Dear Sony
    You are your own worst enemy.

  • Chaturanaga Manchanayake

    I guess so.

  • Alex Norris
  • kurakuradisco

    what’s makes it ugly for your opinion? that bezels?

    ok,does iphone 7’s bezels is beautiful?

  • kurakuradisco

    most people blinded with anesthetic, they want to show off their phone when at coffeeshop.

    but the person with personality, they prefer the functionality over the design

  • SamTroll

    Does anybody know, will the z5 series get android O update?

  • dko3tgk

    Why would the compact have an AMOLED screen if all the bigger models do not? I think it’s pretty certain the compact will not have an AMOLED screen

  • DBS

    Not just the Compact, obviously. The XZ1 should also come with AMOLED.

    Why? Because it’s the future. Everyone is switching to AMOLED, even Apple who’s always late for the party. Sony has pretty much lost all that made their phones stand out (good camera, IP ratings, glass designs) if they also fail to update basic things like screen technology they’ll fall even more behind.

    Which is why I keep hoping they get some sense and put a darn AMOLED panel in these two phones. But I don’t actually think they’ll do it. In fact, I’m prepared to bet they’ll both show with the same “meh” LCD screens they insist in using. Which is a shame.

  • babylonbwoy

    Ha ha true.
    Don’t buy people, you’re talking about bezels here for years and there’re still here.
    Sony will still use big bezel as long as people buy their phone..

  • Darni187

    As my immediate family in total have 7 Sony devices being used right now, I think I can truly speak on Sony’s behalf..

    If you want to be the crowd go buy a iPhone or Samsung phone, Sony stand with their OWN DESIGN this is not to show off these are work of art phones.. Slab designs, straight lines.. You have to have class to enjoy Sony design.. Modern society is daily becoming more and more classless and just sheep’s just want to out do eachother and show off.. I feel sorry for iPhone users.. They are slaves of Apple..

  • Khalid Abdi

    Why would Sony go with AMOLED when new LCD technologies emerging like Organic LCD and Plastic LCD? Not mention that Sony til now they didn’t go full 2K and 4K displays.
    True they will go soon with OLED and properly they’re waiting for the company they partially own JDI to acquire JOLED this year and I think they will enter the OLED market in the end of 2018 like showing of in IFA’s next year. BTW I’m excited to see Japanese OLED because the whole world only knows Korean OLED.
    Plus, about 8 years later, you will see Xperias and iPhones with micro-LED displays so OLED isn’t the future as we know it.

  • DBS

    Because AMOLED and POLED are far superior technologies? And Sony knows that, their TVs have already started the shift from LCD to OLED. There Bravia line (the A1E for example) already has 4K HDR OLED TVs.

    2K, 4K…that is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with the type of screen, just the resolution. You can have 720p AMOLED screens.

    So the thing here is that Sony is already late. AMOLED screens on smartphones have been around since 2012. Samsung has been trickling them down to even low end phones like the Galaxy J line…and Sony (and mostly LG) still haven’t delivered AMOLED flagships let alone low end devices.
    I think it’s a matter of urgency and understanding that “you snooze, you lose” that has been missing at Sony Mobile for years.

    As for Japanese vs Korean OLED…it will almost certainly be pretty much the same…all of them will end up being produced in China anyway ahahahahahahah

    (I understand what you mean though. I for example only use LG screens in my home. Their OLED TVs are far better than what Samsung is offering which is why I’m very curious to see the V30 with an OLED display).

  • Khalid Abdi

    Look TVs and phones are different so I understand when Sony shifted to OLED in the TV section to attract buyer plus I know they’re late some how but at the end of the day they’re struggling, it’s not like they’re doing things on purpose.

    Yes, 2K and 4K are relevant when they’re making the picture sharper and crispier and if you don’t agree with me tell me why are the TVs 4K and why many industries are shifting to 4K???

    Dude we saw how the LCD-LED back-lit TVs stood to the OLED TVs for a while. So when Organic LCD comes we will see something new because it will be OLCD vs OLED. Even they could infuse OLCD with back-lit and see how it could look beautiful and colourful with deeper blacks than the currant LCDs. Same goes for the Plastic LCD or PLCD and for the phones, they could give us bigger batteries and make them Organic displays.

    As for why am I saying Japanese OLED vs Korean OLED because Samsung uses different method to make their OLEDs and LG too.
    JOLED’s OLED could be near to LGs OLED because they will have white OLEDS but they are not the same because their engineering, architecture and their ergonomics are different.

    So what if China is building them?? That isn’t a reason that they would call it Chinese OLED, besides, JDI is in Japan and JOLED is in Japan as well. So Sony will have their OLEDs in home manufacturing.
    But soon China will make their OLEDs. I have read it in a place and Japan too

  • DBS

    Oh you misunderstood. When I said 2K or 4K were irrelevant I meant between an LCD or AMOLED display. Although I WILL argue that 4K screens on phones are ridiculous. Even 2K screens are ridiculous on phones smaller than 6″. Now the ONLY argument for a 4K screen on a phone is for VR. Then it makes a lot of sense to have a 4K screen on a phone (though it needs to be AMOLED as mobile VR doesn’t work properly with LCD).

    “So when Organic LCD comes we will see something new because it will be OLCD vs OLED.”

    IF it comes. I don’t think there’s much serious investment being made on OLCDs. Consumers seem to prefer OLED and with all phones going OLED in a very near future, pretty soon consumers will be looking at their TVs and saying “eww…why the hell can’t that screen produce deep blacks?”.
    I think TV manufacturers understand this and that’s why all of them, Sony included, are moving to OLED.

    I understood what you meant by “Japanese OLED”. I simply find it ridiculous to try to name technologies according to nationality (specially since many of the engineers at Sony, LG and Samsung aren’t even Japanese or Korean). So I’d rather say “I’m curious to see company X approach to OLED”.

    Which is why I told you that you can already see Sony’s approach at OLED TVs. We’ll have to wait to see what they do in regards to smartphones though. Sony’s manufacturing capabilities these days are very limited and only LG and Samsung have large enough infrastructure to mass produce OLED displays (which is actually making both companies LOADS of money since pretty much everyone else is paying them to manufacture their products). I don’t know who’s producing Sony’s OLED TVs but it might be interesting to take a look at that.

  • Khalid Abdi

    No your the one who misunderstood me. 4K and 2K yes it might be an over kill but they make the phone brighter and crispier.
    Have you saw XZ Premium when some people changed to full 4K screen?

    Maybe but i don’t think so because if they were thinking about how consumers think OLEDs are better, then we wouldn’t see some company approaching the idea at SID display 2017!!!! Plus LCD is cheaper with infusing with new technologies and that’s a threat to OLED
    We see now how Samsung is competing with LG OLED’s TVs.
    Samsung uses LCD display with Quantum Dot and they’re number 1 in the market and for 10 years.
    If OLEDs are so strong why didn’t LG didn’t dethrone Samsung years ago??????
    The truth is that the industry are changing to OLED is because for the money but all of them know that LCD isn’t dying and with infusing it some new technologies they can become stronger than OLEDs and Micro-LEDs are soon coming. So everyone is trying to hold a spot for their places.

    I am not naming as nationality technologies but they are a fact.
    And Indeed Sony’s engineer’s are Japanese most of them and Samsung’s and LGs are Koreans.

    Sony is entering the market due to their loss not because they want it
    otherwise, we would have seen their phones changed into bezel less phones or they would have changed the design of their phones.
    As their CEO Kaz Hiari said, they are waiting for a paradigm shift.
    But, I agree with you , it would be interesting to see when Sony goes full OLED.

  • DBS

    “4K and 2K yes it might be an over kill but they make the phone brighter and crispier.
    Have you saw XZ Premium when some people changed to full 4K screen?”

    Yes. I wasn’t impressed by the resolution. I didn’t notice it being much crisper than a 2K screen. The HDR had a far bigger effect if we’re being honest. That is, to me, the best feature of the XZP. Not the display (for sure) and not the resolution. The HDR.

    “then we wouldn’t see some company approaching the idea at SID display 2017”

    You will ALWAYS see some company or another trying to bet on something else. That’s why things like HD-DVDs existed. Back when Sony was launching Blu-Ray, others came up with the HD-DVD with a reasoning similar to that of the LCD. The reality is that in the end, HD-DVDs weren’t better than Blu-Ray discs. Just like OLCD’s won’t be better than OLED. But if companies don’t try to push for alternatives, the market will end up being dominated by two companies.

    “If OLEDs are so strong why didn’t LG didn’t dethrone Samsung years ago??????”

    Because LG didn’t do AMOLED displays before Samsung? But it’s funny you know…Samsung absolutely dominates AMOLED displays (ie. mobile OLED displays). But when it comes to TV screens, it’s LG that actually has the monopoly on OLED displays. And they have announced a 7 billion dollar investment in January for mobile displays which means they’ll be going after Samsung pretty soon (and if they managed to secure the deal with Apple, that will give LG Display quite a boost).

    So you now basically have LG dominating TV OLED displays and Samsung dominating mobile smartphone displays. That puts Sony definitely in a very difficult position because both their TVs and smartphones have been struggling for years.
    Which is why if they don’t make an effort, they won’t go anywhere.

    “CEO Kaz Hiari said, they are waiting for a paradigm shift.”

    Be VERY careful with the wishful thinking you put in this. The last company that talked about “paradigm shifts” on mobile you know who it was? Microsoft. To justify Windows 10 Mobile etc. We all know how that end up.
    Windows 10 Mobile died quickly and there’s no “paradigm shift” coming anytime soon to save it OR Microsoft’s mobile ambitions.
    So whenever Hirai talks about “paradigm shifts”, all I hear is “we’re waiting for a miracle but we don’t move a finger to try to provoke it”.
    Currently they’re doing the “let’s put the bare minimum on our phones, sell them with high prices and try to break even”. Which is why their sales dropped to 2012 numbers but they managed to stay slightly above the red line.
    But going forward we’ll have to see if that strategy can continue to hold up. And going with OLED would be interesting.

    And even more if they stopped being idiots and took the chance to not only add OLED to the phones but create a mobile VR platform that could integrate into their PlayStation VR platform. Which is something Sony could be taking advantage of and is shamelessly squandering :

  • Gary Ohanian

    Having used my Z1 until the start of the year when it started boot looping (consequently fixed and still running today) and switching to a XA as a temp phone, I’m on the fence for “easier to use one handed”.

    I used to use the Z1 one handed and even without huge hands, 95% of the time it wasn’t an issue. The XA’s narrower design helps (and better weight distribution) but I haven’t found it better overall as detection on the edges has issues (both false hits and not detecting).

    Using both the X and X Compact with their slightly bigger side bezel works better for me.

  • Khalid Abdi

    True for the HDR but the 4K helped the display but your refusing admit it.
    Because before they didn’t HDR in the dispalys they were only 4K and 2K and HDR only enhanced the display.

    Haven’t you seen what I said OLCD could be a competitor with OLED with infused technologies such as Quantum Dot and back-lit LEDs
    Because it Organic which means it will be over hyped and with with Triluminos or Quantum Dot plus it’s LCD it will will have good viewing angles and almost natural or be 50-50.

    Yeah Samsung where the first before LG and made OLEDs after Sony pioneering the OLED and dropping the whole idea down due to their stupidity.
    But Samsung used OLED until last 2 years which they changed to LCD Quantum Dot.
    Even if the OLEDs are superior and will have a demand they won’t lose because they’re doing other things like a true QLED which is a micro-LED .

    Sony are in a tough situation because of their stupidity and natural facts like earthquakes ruining their property which will led to a money loss.

    Sony is not Microsoft.
    Microsoft had a lot of mistakes like making a computer OS into a smartphone OS is crazy and when they made it they didn’t give applications with good store.

    Sony has a lot to offer but they seem afraid and not to try new things.
    Why they’re losing because they’re over pricing their TVs and phones for nothing. So again their stupidity is leading to lose.
    Sony doesn’t want to enter Xperia VR because they don’t want to affect their PS sales which is excellent.

    As I said earlier that they will OLED and already they’re preparing for the Micro-LED TV which is called CLEDS which they intend to show it after 5 to 6 years from now

  • DBS

    “True for the HDR but the 4K helped the display but your refusing admit it.”

    No. It really doesn’t make any noticeable difference. I didn’t see a single difference in sharpness between the 4K display of the XZP and the 2K display of the S7. But I did notice the HDR in effect.
    And it’s normal. Your eyes can NOT see the difference between 2K and 4K in such a small form factor. And if you think you can, you can’t. Your brain is deceiving you because you want to believe you can see the difference. That’s just simple science.

    “Haven’t you seen what I said OLCD could be a competitor with OLED with infused technologies such as Quantum Dot and back-lit LEDs”

    And I told you it will be a competitor to OLED just as much as HD-DVDs were to Blu-Rays.

    “But Samsung used OLED until last 2 years which they changed to LCD Quantum Dot.”

    Samsung is doing that because they are the underdog in TV displays. They had quite a few issues with their OLED panels and never managed to compete with LG. So they are trying to convince people that QLED is better than OLED to try to get people to buy their TVs instead.
    LG did exactly the same with their mobile phones with their “Quantum” displays.
    But here’s the reality of it: if Samsung really thought that QLED was better than OLED they’d be putting it on mobile. And if LG really thought Quantum IPS was better than OLED they’d be putting it on their TVs.

    That alone should give you all the red flags you need to see through the marketing. If both companies really thought their tech was better than their competitors, they’d be putting it in the areas where they rule supreme. But neither is doing it.

    “Sony is not Microsoft.
    Microsoft had a lot of mistakes like making a computer OS into a smartphone OS is crazy and when they made it they didn’t give applications with good store.”

    Indeed. Sony is in a much worse position.
    Microsoft never gave two sh*ts about Windows Phone. That’s a fact. It was Nokia that gave Windows Phone life and as soon as Nokia left, Windows Phone died. Turning Windows into a smartphone OS is NOT crazy. What’s crazy is to think that Windows as a smartphone OS could ever survive without developers. For years developers tried to give Microsoft a chance. But they just didn’t care.

    Same goes for Sony. Consumers at one point had Sony as the third largest OEM in Europe. But Sony didn’t give a sh*t. And because of that they allowed their marketshare to drop into oblivion. The Z3 line was the peek of Sony Mobile. Then Samsung, LG, Apple, Huawei, Honor, Lenovo all started to step up their games. And by 2016, Samsung had with the S7 successfully produced the Xperia flagship that Sony could have made a year before with the blunder that turned out to be the Z5.

    I agree, Sony has a lot to offer.
    They also think we live in 1995 and that “It’s a Sony” still means anything (don’t know if you’re old enough to remember those commercials). Their brand doesn’t sell anymore as it used to. But they think it does. Just look at how they present the phones with the “We want consumers to experience the WOW”. Yeah, they normally do. The day before or after then Samsung or LG do their presentations.

    “Sony doesn’t want to enter Xperia VR because they don’t want to affect their PS sales which is excellent.”

    Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s their thinking. Thing is, Xperia VR would NOT be a competitor to the PlayStation VR. But if the PSVR could be used with Xperia phones, you can be sure a hell of a lot more PlayStation owners would probably consider an Xperia. Or a PSVR (I for example an a PlayStation guy but I didn’t buy the PSVR. Because I’m not interested in spending 400€ in a headset that only works with the PS4 and no one knows if it will work with the PS5 (probably not as Sony likes to prevent those things. Take the PlayStation Camera as an example). If the PSVR worked with the PS4 AND Sony’s smartphones, I would be much more likely to buy both a Sony smartphone again and the PSVR.

    “which they intend to show it after 5 to 6 years from now”

    I don’t think Sony Mobile will be around 5 to 6 years from now though.

  • Justo Belgrano

    XZ1 can’t justify 250 USD of difference between them. XZs is the phone to get now.

  • HAWX

    And even better on ZL, Z2, S7E, S8, G2, G3 ,G4 and G5.

  • dko3tgk

    Why are you arguing about TV technologies that have very little bearing on Sony phones? Even if I could have a 4K HDR OLED screen on a 6.2″ screen, that would be crazy expensive and pretty useless. First you can’t see it that well on a small screen. Then what are you going to do about content? Streaming over 4G connections will not be that great dues to consistent speed and eat up any soft or hard data caps quick, and a 4k HDR bluray rip is 30-60 GB per movie, eating up alot of SD card space.
    And for TV’s OLED’s are much better picture quality than LED’s, just look at the best tv of the year award winners for this year, mostly OLED models. And the only reason LED is still around is because OLED’s are still too expensive to mass produce. My friend who works in the tv manufacturing business says that is because the factory equipment to make OLED TV’s is only made by one company and therefore they can’t equip dozens of Chinese factories to mass produce OLED TV’s. It will still take a few years to 65″ OLED’s for $1000-$2000 USD.

  • dko3tgk

    Yes. I loved the body size and bezel size of my old ZL, still my favorite Sony phone. And I also had a Z3 Compact and have a Z5 Dual sim right now. the ZL was a 6″ 1080p screen with a 75.6% screen to body ratio. You could hold it and operate it easily with one hand, and was as small as the Z Compacts in your pocket. It was not a tall giant slab. Yet still had a 6″ 1080p screen. That was a 2013 phone. Just put the same sized 6″ screen at 1080p or higher res (2160p is fine). Newest processor and graphics chip, waterproof and stereo speakers, which has to be possible more than 4 years after the ZL. This ZL size phone with ZL size screen with the newest tech will make me 100% happy. Oh and please bring back dual sim with SD at the same time.

  • dko3tgk

    I’ve held an XZ Premium in my hand and I think it’s bigger than it needs to be because of bezels. Smaller bezels on the side make the phone easier to use one handed. These newest Sony flagships, XZS-1, XZP , etc. can only be used one handed by giant handed people, and most average size handed people cannot. Nearly all these phones are two handed devices. This is one of the reasons why Steve Jobs fought against big screened phones, to preserve one hand usage. Though I think 6″ – 6’2″ is possible one handed with smaller bezels.
    And the top and bottom bezels made smaller means the phone is more compact, more pocketable, easier to carry around.
    So no, I am not misguided by “marketing gimmicks”, I truly believe minimal side bezels and top/bottom bezels reduced by 50% will make the phone more functional for me, and has nothing to do with how cool I think the phone looks.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    I was hoping about the nice DAC/AMP on Xperia for a long time. Then I give up about that….

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  • Khalid Abdi

    Dude I told it is an overkill but they make the colour brighter and bigger and its not necessary your eyes to see the pixel but it makes the display more useful and you people do want to say it and say it is useless because it came from Sony but what if it came from Apple Wow it would have been wonderful art.

    And I told you it will be a competitor to OLED just as much as HD-DVDs were to Blu-Rays.

    Well that is not the same with the display business when the LCDs are cheaper than OLEDs. But it depends if they make it. So far the market wants the OLED just for money and more effective than LCDs and very thin TVs.

    Samsung isn’t underdog, It is a big company on TVs and who told you they’re an underdog. So far they are the ones who are holding the title in the market.
    No, the problem was with Samsung quitting OLED TVs an issue with the was they made it and were too expansive, so no one bought it and Samsung has the material for me making smartphone OLED displays not big ones like the TVs were LG has the materials and plants for making big displays so they do mass production and if they lose it won’t effect them but it does effect Samsung because making OLED is expensive and now it started to become cheap a little bit.
    But so far, Samsung is being #1 in the displays and even they see they will lose Samsung is doing a true QLED which is based on Micro-LED and Micro-LED is far superior than OLED in terms of deeper blanks and viewing angle and longer live cycle with good colour reproduction and much cheaper than OLEDs.

    Please cut the crap, if they see LCDs with quantum dot supreme they wouldn’t put it because OLEDs give better advantage in the smartphone segment like making it thinner and showing edge style with curved and bendable forms.

    Seriously you all underestimating Sony.
    Sony is in bad position financially not a worse one. They have lost and came back but never quit and the prove is that their old bezel design pulled them from the red to the black and people are buying it.
    Now in next year they will open their FPS in the US because they said there were in an agreement between them and Verizon to not use FPS in the US and that’s ending this year.
    Plus, with what happened with Sony like losing in some aspects, no other company would have survived it except Samsung because Samsung are a big conglomerate and they spot at the Top 3 in the the Top 50 companies who make crazy money.
    Sony left out of the competition due to their wrong strategy which was don’t change the design and price the phone like Apple, they stopped making Phablets like Z Ultra successor and more which could compete, plus, they are updating the phones not refreshing and making a new phones with new features which could compete in each segment like the first half of the year and another in the second half e.g. galaxy S series and galaxy note series and each of them have their own design so the consumer is seeing a new fresh phone each time so it wont be boring with new features which are interesting.

    For the VR I’d say maybe.

    I don’t think Sony Mobile will be around 5 to 6 years from now though.

    1. I didn’t mean the smartphone segment, I meant the TV segment. For the smartphones to make Micro-LEDs its far than the big displays which are about 8 to 10 years because they need it to make it smaller displays like 6 inches or 7 inches.

    2.Again underestimating Sony.
    Right now they’re selling and are better than last year. Because they cancelled Z series which was popular and when they cancelled the consumers became upset because the released new phone with new name and no one knew what the hell it was because they looked like mid-rangers and with old design like when your making a new thing, everything about it should be new. But they are selling and doing good which is needed at moment in the market because they’re not bringing something new to the phone but slowly they’re trying with the camera which is great.

    3. I think Sony will survive and don’t they will shut down their mobile business as long they are selling small quantities because right now their phones selling and selling with old design with some new features in the camera and a new one is coming like 3D and more because Sony phones are quality not looks and designs though their current omnibalance loop design is honestly beautiful and elegant. They don’t need to make them bezel-less, just reduce the bezels from the top and bottom then they will be fine because they made bezel-less from the sides but the finger print is stopping them to do it in the flagship phone. I think the will change the design with OLED because the will make Acoustic Audio Surface like they did with the Bravia A1E and a finger print under the display from Qualcomm, then we will see a full edge to edge display and only will becoming one step closer to implementing the camera under the display.

  • Moisés

    At first XZs was 700. Price is not that different.

  • dko3tgk

    I have an idea. Just make the bezels smaller on the 5.2″ model, and make it similar size to the Compact, and you don’t even need a compact version. The ZL is the same size as the Z Compacts with a 6″ screen, just a little thicker.

  • Justo Belgrano

    That was months ago. Where is the progress here?

  • Khalid Abdi

    Dude I told it is an overkill but they make the colour brighter and bigger and its not necessary your eyes to see the pixel but it makes the display more useful and you people do want to say it and say it is useless because it came from Sony but what if it came from Apple Wow it would have been wonderful art.

    And I told you it will be a competitor to OLED just as much as HD-DVDs were to Blu-Rays.

    Well that is not the same with the display business when the LCDs are cheaper than OLEDs. But it depends if they make it. So far the market wants the OLED just for money and more effective than LCDs and very thin TVs.

    Samsung isn’t underdog, It is a big company on TVs and who told you they’re an underdog. So far they are the ones who are holding the title in the market.
    No, the problem was with Samsung quitting OLED TVs an issue with the was they made it and were too expansive, so no one bought it and Samsung has the material for me making smartphone OLED displays not big ones like the TVs were LG has the materials and plants for making big displays so they do mass production and if they lose it won’t effect them but it does effect Samsung because making OLED is expensive and now it started to become cheap a little bit.
    But so far, Samsung is being #1 in the displays and even they see they will lose Samsung is doing a true QLED which is based on Micro-LED and Micro-LED is far superior than OLED in terms of deeper blanks and viewing angle and longer live cycle with good colour reproduction and much cheaper than OLEDs.

    Please cut the crap, if they see LCDs with quantum dot supreme they wouldn’t put it because OLEDs give better advantage in the smartphone segment like making it thinner and showing edge style with curved and bendable forms.

    Seriously you all underestimating Sony.
    Sony is in bad position financially not a worse one. They have lost and came back but never quit and the prove is that their old bezel design pulled them from the red to the black and people are buying it.
    Now in next year they will open their FPS in the US because they said there were in an agreement between them and Verizon to not use FPS in the US and that’s ending this year.
    Plus, with what happened with Sony like losing in some aspects, no other company would have survived it except Samsung because Samsung are a big conglomerate and they spot at the Top 3 in the the Top 50 companies who make crazy money.
    Sony left out of the competition due to their wrong strategy which was don’t change the design and price the phone like Apple, they stopped making Phablets like Z Ultra successor and more which could compete, plus, they are updating the phones not refreshing and making a new phones with new features which could compete in each segment like the first half of the year and another in the second half e.g. galaxy S series and galaxy note series and each of them have their own design so the consumer is seeing a new fresh phone each time so it wont be boring with new features which are interesting.

    For the VR I’d say maybe.

    I don’t think Sony Mobile will be around 5 to 6 years from now though.

    1. I didn’t mean the smartphone segment, I meant the TV segment. For the smartphones to make Micro-LEDs its far than the big displays which are about 8 to 10 years because they need it to make it smaller displays like 6 inches or 7 inches.

    2.Again underestimating Sony.
    Right now they’re selling and are better than last year. Because they cancelled Z series which was popular and when they cancelled the consumers became upset because the released new phone with new name and no one knew what the hell it was because they looked like mid-rangers and with old design like when your making a new thing, everything about it should be new. But they are selling and doing good which is needed at moment in the market because they’re not bringing something new to the phone but slowly they’re trying with the camera which is great.

    3. I think Sony will survive and don’t they will shut down their mobile business as long they are selling small quantities because right now their phones selling and selling with old design with some new features in the camera and a new one is coming like 3D and more because Sony phones are quality not looks and designs though their current omnibalance loop design is honestly beautiful and elegant. They don’t need to make them bezel-less, just reduce the bezels from the top and bottom then they will be fine because they made bezel-less from the sides but the finger print is stopping them to do it in the flagship phone. I think the will change the design with OLED because the will make Acoustic Audio Surface like they did with the Bravia A1E and a finger print under the display from Qualcomm, then we will see a full edge to edge display and they’re becoming one step closer to implementing the camera under the display.

  • Paul

    5.2″? Seriously? Call it whatever you want, but NOT compact!!!

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  • Lorenz Weyer

    I don´t care about the bezels. But what about the camera? Seems to be same than of XZ Premium. So still no OIS, no bigger pixels, no full manual mode. Disappointing!

  • Iki

    Keep the bezels. Smaller ones are bad for functionality.

  • Iki

    Xz premium has a nice DAC, and decent amp. At least compared to other phones.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    …!? It’s using qualcomm DAC and it’s not really good.

    Also I don’t see it use dedicated amp like other brand.

    Where is your information come from ?

  • Iki

    Sony Xperia phones use Sonys own sound components.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    Do you have any evidence ? I saw the disassembly video of many xperia already and there’s no amp inside at all.

    If you’re talking about Walkman then yes. It’s using S-Master.

  • Iki

    It’s built in to the chips. They don’t use a dedicated separate dac/Amp, as that would make the phone trice as thick.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    If they really use the amp then I would say that the power output is too low. It can’t even drive MDR-7506 at a decent level.

  • Iki

    It drives the hd600 at a decent level.

  • Szabó Béla

    Then why are you here blaming a phone yet to be released?

  • Ali Manai

    If you root the phone it will but on official software sony has restricted volume levels

  • Jaissal S

    I will definitely consider the XZ1, but hope it will be worth the money moving from Z5.

  • Moisés

    599 now XZs..
    It will be 450 on Xmas

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    Yes I know about that. Can’t really understand why they keep restrict it.

  • Death Metal

    Wow, Sony used to be at the top of the game in terms of design back in 2011/12/13… It seems like they lost it big time to Samsung and others over time. This phone is hideous and huge. Sorry but look at the S8… That thing is gorgeous, and you’re supposed to top that, Sony. Damn, it’s disheartening to see it happen.

  • At best, the S8 series is JEWELRY. Knock those fancy edges and you have a PAPERWEIGHT. No such fragility with Sony’s devices!

  • Death Metal

    Regardless, you’re supposed to take good care of your device either way. That kind of sounds like some random rebuttal for the lack of a real argument. Dude I’ve always been a diehard Sony fan. But one’s got to admit defeat when it’s in their face. The S8 simply knocked everyone else flat.

  • I am personally not happy with the S8. Neither are my friends. We found it derivative; I was hoping it would slay everyone and be the “end all, be all” of Android phones. Instead, we got another fragile slab with a good camera, a bit taller with a screen that won’t render Youtube videos without black bars like those square TVs, and still bloated and bound-to-lag software.

  • Death Metal

    Well I will have to respectfully disagree. I am also waiting to see the Note 8 in my hands. You should check it out too, maybe it will be the ultimate experience that you also seem to be hoping for.

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