Japanese Xperia Z4 owners complain of heat issues

by XB on 10th June 2015

in Problems, Xperia - Japan Models, Xperia Z4 and Z3+ series

Xperia Z4 heat_2The Sony Xperia Z4 was launched into Japan earlier today and already there are numerous reports of people complaining about heat issues for the handset. Below is a selection of statements on Twitter where people talk about how hot the handset can get. Users have been taking to forums and blog sites to document the temperatures of their devices and how well the handset does in benchmarks, trying to get a sense of the throttling taking place.

Retail shops in Japan are doing their best to warn people about the heating issues relating to the Snapdragon 810 chipset. The notice you see further down was placed in a shop and recommends users who plan to purchase a phone using the Snapdragon 810 chipset to ensure they periodically power off their handset, power off the handset during charging and make regular backups.

None of this is great marketing for Qualcomm and Sony, but the news is hardly a surprise given all we have heard about the Snapdragon 810 chipset. Whichever way you look at it, the Snapdragon 810 chip appears to have thermal issues and we hope Sony can find a way to ensure it does not impact the daily user experience, especially as the global Xperia Z3+ launch nears.

Xperia Z4 owners on Twitter talk of heat issues (translated)

Xperia Z4 twitter_1

Xperia Z4 twitter_2

Xperia Z4 temperatures using CPU-Z

Xperia Z4 heat_1 Xperia Z4 heat_2

Xperia Z4 benchmarks

Xperia Z4 benchmark_1 Xperia Z4 benchmark_2

NTT docomo retail warning on Snapdragon 810 chipset heat issues

Xperia Z4 docomo retail

Via Blog.livedoor and RBMen.

Thanks Nick, Oleg and Zymo!

  • Tim Rox Westerholm

    That’s scary…

  • Berkay Tunal?

    This proccesor is going to burry qualqomm to the ground

  • Abdul Ghani

    Where are those qualcomm lovers now

  • Well, this sucks.

  • Nodar Sixarulidze

    Fake and troll

    go samsung

  • Power off during charge not an option when you run your biz on your phone. Woops!

  • Berkay Tunal?

    Also there is something wrong with the lolipop it heats the phone more than the previous updates i am currently using kitkat better sound camera and batter life also not heating.

  • Snapdragon 810 is a huge blow to Qualcomm. If they don’t solve the heat issues in time for Q3 flagships (Xperia Z4, new HTC, Galaxy Note 5), they’re done.

  • Timel

    Is it hard for you to accept the truth?

    Blind and biased

    Go away brainless fanboy

  • DBS

    And here you have it. SD810 giving problems yet again.

    The only thing I can’t seem to predict is the Euromillions combination, damn it…

  • Timel

    It’s going to burry Xperia Z3 plus to the ground as well, I think Sony should deverlop their own chipset (like Samsung and Apple)

  • DBS

    Not sure they can even wait that long. Intel and ARM are already counter-attacking with their own mobile chips.

  • mibas66

    Ignore and flag

  • Timel

    Now it’s clear that you can’t even to accept the truth, that’s why you can be nothing but a loser LOL

  • Aiden Pearce

    well its a bad news lets hope Sony n Qcom fix it asap before the deal goes wrong!!!!

  • Abdul Ghani

    no need mediatek x20 has prooved that under full load gaming it only goes 33 degrees which is awesome

  • Abdul Ghani

    timel dont go hard on sony this was wished my all snapdragon ass kissers sony just listened and gave them the hot dick to them just hope sony uses mediatek x20 in their 2016 line up

  • mohsen

    it is time to migrate to intel (king of chipset), and microsoft windows (king of OS) by SONY

  • dragonsneeze

    I mean S810 having issues is one thing, one can screw up any time but why did sony wait for this long then? Or why did they even out a device with that chipset, do they have to? I don’t get it.

  • Timel

    How bout the poor GPS signal problem?

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  • Stephen

    windows mobile is the most appalling os of all time
    i went from a nokia n8 to a lumia 800 a few years ago
    and it was like a serious downgrade
    windows mobile os is a dead duck but microsoft too stupid to figure this out

  • Abdul Ghani

    there is no such thing in x10 and x20 have u seen reviews with x10 specially e9+ which has no issues it runs at 2k display smooth performance and gaming too

  • Nodar Sixarulidze

    go troll

  • Niels d. G.

    Windows mobile is *not* the same as Windows phone.
    And just because YOU don’t like it makes it a dead OS? What are you, the only opinion in the world?

  • BruceLeeRoyJenkins

    Damn, I hope whatever chipset Sony uses for the Z5 runs more smoothly and doesn’t overheat

  • Svnjay

    “Sony should deverlop their own chipset (like Samsung and Apple)”

    Terrible advice.

  • Niels d. G.

    Add to that, a smaller battery than the z3. This is not good.

  • Camilo Uribe

    Oh men, now I’m not sure about buy Z3+ :(

  • kido

    Another Flop for Sony

  • Doubleyoupee

    I don’t get why they don’t just put in if temp = 45c, decrease ghz.

    Like 99% of the people will notice -500mhz.

  • Aca

    Xperia Z5 or Z6 with Intel Inside :D

  • kido

    Why the hell did sony wait so long to release this crap in the first place ?? hopefully the ‘real’ flagship for 2015 arrives at IFA, if not then this year was a total waste of time from sony…i’ll probably keep my z3c for one more year then….

  • Deads

    Sony has little to no interest in Windows Phone, just like every other company.
    There is almost no real way to stand out in the Windows Phone market and there is no money in the Windows Phone market. The consumer has little to no interest in it so the manufacturers wont sell enough to make a profit.
    Why do you think MS had to pump so much money into the deal with Nokia and buy them in the end?

  • Luis alexander rosas velasquez

    No,I don´t like it too

  • Battal Aljadei

    HTC used Mediatek SOC, LG used SD 808, Samsung used it’s own SOC, they all did that to prevent the heat issue expect Sony !

    WTF with this company ?

  • ZXcorr


  • 810 is a flop. 5.0.1 is flop, it overheats everything, from my Z to the new s6 and s6 duo. It’s a fucking nightmare for lagdroid manufacturers, and Z4 is the last (or so) nail in Sony Mobile’s coffin.

  • Nothing, it’s fucked beyond repair. Expect it to be the last year of Sony mobile.

  • Galaxy Note 5 will use a samsung 14nm chip, naturally….

  • I agree, it’s the last chance for Sony right now. Windows 10 alongside lagdroid, and mediatek and Intel chips hardware-wise.

  • Abhinav Tella

    More heat means faster battery discharge on top of the already smaller battery………

  • ????? ????????

    Z3 D6603!
    I will hard think now to update it or not.

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  • ph00ny

    Um. Where does it say that Exynos 7420 is clocked at 1.6? I’m pretty sure A57 cores are clocked at 2.1Ghz. Reason why they’re frugal is because Samsung decided to use 14nm FINFET instead of TSMC’s 20nm

  • ph00ny

    Specially with Nokia being part of Microsoft.

  • Abhinav Tella

    I stand corrected you are right, its the Apple A8’s custom ARM cores that are clocked lower at ~1.4Ghz. Either way they could have still down clocked to compensate, probably wouldn’t look good on benchmarks but at least would give consistent performance instead of throttling heavily like after 15 mins.

  • Simon Setyadarma

    The reason people buy Lumia because they want something new, sick and tired of war between Android and IOS which Windows Phone not included here.
    Soon they become a lover of Nokia, they become a fanboy..ooo my Lumia 930 can beat all those camera out there, even in comparison they would stick with their Lumia. Oh c’mon, we know S6 is better.
    Well, Windows Phone is not dead (yet), it’s just not growing or anything anytime soon.

  • Itsarapong Intoum

    sony… you make me disappoint. I hope you will not do this stupid thing with next flagship.

  • Jonathan Bratanata

    too bad sony can’t use the exynos 7420 in their phones
    that or samsung charges a fuckton of money

  • InspectorGadget80

    Good thing cause I’m not buying any Sony phones if they drop the 810 cause I’m already passing the X3 it’s using the 810. I’m switching to either the G4 or NOTE V

  • InspectorGadget80

    Time to switch companies lg seems good enough or the NOTE V

  • Ryan Kumar-jassi

    I think so too like they do for their other devices

  • Riyal

    Here! Though I don’t plan on getting a Q S810 device… I’m still a qualcomm lover all the way.

  • Riyal

    Survey & records says it’s dead too… It’s like a spec in a jar of sand. How many windows phone users can you spot everyday? Mine barely reaches 1 a day…. AFAIK I could like spot 2 or 3 users a month here in our country.

  • jmaxim917

    Sony must have anticipated this. I’m afraid their rush to market will cost them dearly. They probably have already calculated the loss andhave made a final decision regarding the future of Sony Mobile.

  • Well.. I guess I’ll just wait for Z5. Shit. I really wanted a Z4/3+. Isn’t this the last phone though ? Meaning we won’t see a Z5 buy maybe an Xperia One.

  • Well it was just released. I dont like the nes either but let’s wait a little more.

  • jag

    Same here! I wanted to have it because it is the last Z phone. But now I’m having second thoughts because of this heat issues.

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    I thought my Xperia L heating is far worst than this

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    I am so waiting next year

  • Timel

    I think It’s good for Sony in long term, it also good for software updates.

  • Nawi

    HTC is going down thanks to this chipset

    Total sh*t !!!

  • Timel

    Because the Pureview camera

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  • Timel

    Now S6 edge, iPhone 6 plus and LG G4 WIN!

  • Zeke

    Sony should get Paris Hilton as the phones ambassador – “That’s hot!”

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  • Develop their on chip then blurghh

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  • Timel

    Very cool

  • xperiaDROID

    Where are the people who said they don’t mind about Snapdragon 810 and don’t mind about overheating and speed throttling? I thought these people were like “I’m buying the Z3+, to support Sony, I don’t care about anything”?

    How funny that these people need to get slapped by some few “Xperia Z4 overheating” news so they only can wake up and know that the Xperia Z3+ is not the way to go.

  • Andre Lemard

    I thought Sony would’ve underclocked the 810 to prevent the overheating issues and still have a higher performance benchmark than the Z3 itself… Clearly, that’s not the case. I was looking to replace my Z1 with the Z3+, but, I might as well get the Z3 or wait for the next flagship.

  • The PS3 didn’t kill Sony and the Galaxy S5 didn’t kill Samsung. Similarly, one underperforming chip isn’t going to kill Qualcomm.

  • DBS

    It’s not a question of killing, it’s a question of losing their absolute dominance on the mobile chips market. Which if they don’t act quickly they seriously risk

  • Aiden Pearce

    Dalvik sony seriously???

  • Sony didn’t lose dominance on the console market because of the PS3 (it still sold better than the Xbox 360) and Samsung didn’t lose dominance because of the Galaxy S5. Qualcomm is still going to remain the chip manufacturer of choice for all non-Samsung flagships.

  • Naail Zahid

    Lol I never thought you would end up agreeing with the king of trolls!

  • Naail Zahid

    One m9+ and one e9+ say hello.
    Also, meet the one me9

  • Raj Singh

    This can’t be good…

  • Raj Singh

    Qualcomm screwed them after giving assurances that everything was fine and there were no problems with the chipset.

  • Raj Singh

    Terrible idea.

  • Abhinav Tella

    You do know ARM provides the template for all these companies including Qualcomm… Only Intel’s x86 based CPUs are of different architecture.

  • Alex

    This is my Nexus 5, after just looking at the internet. It is barely warm to the touch. Those are internal temps, and the media just seems to want to create a storm in a teacup over this.

  • Timel

    I think so
    Sony is not very experienced at making processor, if Sony make its own chipset, Sony SoC will be worse than SD810 definitely LOL

  • Tibor Hornyák


    the only problem, that any of that company’s devices are fully perfect…..

  • Unknown

    hahaha Apple can not develop chipset my friend

  • Just FYI, many positive reviews… and some over the top HAPPY with the Z4

    including this guy at http://xperia-freaks.org/2015/06/11/sov31-1st-impression/

    My pal just grabbed a few of the Z4, including a couple for me on Docomo,
    and says it’s amazing and feels zero heat so far. I’ll have in hand as soon as I land and will post impressions.

  • Chan Kin Cheung

    c’mon here is some shit for paris.

  • Nguyen Eazy

    thx for this! now I know I will be waiting for Z5!

  • Carljn

    Those temperatures are internal and quite normal. What matters is how much leaks out.
    If the 810 actually runs significally hotter than other chipsets then Sony might have made it cool more aggressively outwards.

  • Alumine

    Uhhh…. A-series cores?

  • marcyff2

    I thought samsung made the a-series and sold it to apple

  • marcyff2

    No companies devices are perfect, sony is the only one who deliever water and dustproof and a slick device together. But the camera and heat issues leave much to be desired.

  • marcyff2

    That is actually not that natural most notes had qualcomn ships

  • marcyff2

    the hell was wrong with the ps3? It was a work of art for its time

  • Alumine

    Samsung manufactures the cores in their plants, but the cores are still internally designed by Apple. This was one of the reasons they acquired Intrinsity – who worked on the Samsung Hummingbird core.

  • Tibor Hornyák


  • Sandeep Kumar

    :O i`m happy with MY XPERIA Z1

  • marcyff2

    well sony representatives were dumb then. because I am sure that LG and Samsung received the same assurance and still opted out.

  • marcyff2

    I wonder if the z4t is going to have issues too. I mean there is more room for heat dissipation

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  • The PS3 was indeed a work of art, my favorite console of all time, but before the slim model launched in 2009, it was too expensive so it didn’t sell.

  • Jecht_Sin

    Up to 68 C internal is normal? When mine goes to 45 it feels warm already.

  • inspire

    hmm… and you think the engineers at Sony are a bunch of idiots that they don’t know what optimum frequency to set?

    I mean discussions are welcome but not people even advise tech giants on how to optimize SoC/processors for performance/heat/battery…

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  • Robin

    Can anyone tell me how good Sony Xperia z3 compact’s camera is And it’s performance after upgrading to lollipop?I want to buy this phone but first I want to know more about its problems that you are facing in your daily life.Suggest me,should I buy this phone or not.I want a well performance and good camera phone.

  • Timel


    Apple has always designed its own chipset , Apple is fabless company just like Qualcomnn, Nvidia and Mediatek.

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  • Timel

    Samsung Semiconductors is foundry

  • Snorky112

    it’s great, best battery I got since 10 years

  • Carljn

    My Z1 says 59°C right now and it doesn’t feel any warmer than it would if it was off. The 810 might run hotter than the 800 but I see no cause for alarm.

  • joseph carmine nero

    Fuck Qualcomm.they fucked up many OEMS this year.i was once their fan but they had enough time to fix 810 and they did not

  • joseph carmine nero

    not really.sony and toshiba designed PS3 CPU

  • Timel

    Sorry but Cell CPU is nothing but a big mistake

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  • HAWX

    Then why did you said Sony should make it’s own chipset?
    Probably too much weed or watching porn while you are writing these comments..

  • HAWX

    Sony – design.heat

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  • jag

    HAHAHAHAHA! Awtsu!
    I’m still eager to have this phone as I have said, It is the final Z so it is really worth it to have it.

    I guess there are other people who are also happy with it. We should wait for other infos too.

  • Joe Black

    68C is cool compared to M9.

    Plus, that’s an alright internal temp. Just a publicity stunt.

  • Niels d. G.

    I don’t own a Windows phone by the way, never have. But I don’t think it’s going to die any time soon. Windows phone is already considerably more popular than Windows mobile, so they are growing, very slowly but steadily. It does seriously lack support from app developers though…

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  • xperiaDROID

    I don’t think it’s the final Z, because it doesn’t make any sense. Z doesn’t represent anything other than their flagship lineup. If they’re gonna change their flagship name to ‘Y’, then that must be the most stupid decision ever made IMO.

    What Sony meant when they announced the Z4 in Japan, I think they meant that this will be the last OmniBalance design for the Z series. So, there are many possibilities. Of course there are people who would be happy with the Z4/Z3+, but for me though, I’ll wait for the Z5 or whatever the next flagship will be called.

  • Joe Black

    They did the opposite of rushing fyi. Gave up on 810, and waited for a “fixed” version, aka v2.1

    Qualcomm fucked Sony in the ass.

  • Joe Black

    X would be cool.

  • Timel

    Sorry, I forgot the fact that Sony has no money to spend with R&D and Sony is not a processor expertise.

  • Timel

    Sony loses again this round

    Samsung S6 edge, Apple iPhone 6 Plus and LG G4 WIN!!!

  • Abhinav Tella

    They aren’t infalliable, the fact that you have this issue in the first place. According to you this issue does not exisist?

    Last I checked HTC M9 had the SD810 capped to 1.6Ghz… Samsung decided it’s too hot too even use in the first place and LG switched to the 808. And oh DoCoMo even put a heat warning about the SD810 based phones including the Z4. So according to you they are all idiots?

  • Timel

    Paris Hilton is a good girl
    Stop talking bullshit

  • jag

    Well we don’t know about that. Let’s wait and see.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    What are you all babling about!?
    Here, my z1c cpu temperature after 10 min gaming:

    Goes up to 61C…
    It stands as normal nowadays, cpu to heat over 60 C on heavy use, nobody ever ranted about it so much before,
    s6 exynos7 heats up the same as my z1c ( though couldnt find the thermal exynos7 test on web anywhere)
    So, sd810 heats a bit more than sd800, whole 6 C more….
    Is that really the reason to rant so much!?!
    Or is it the whole samsung delibaretly badmouthing qualcomm tragicomedy getting to you all?

  • Chan Kin Cheung

    Someone who have no love for her own body and treat her body like a pile of shit deserve nothing more than a pile of shit

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    You are falling to samsungs marketing stunts..
    There are tests that show exynos7 heating up to a level and m9 heating up only 6 C more…
    You barely notice that difference in over 50 C merit
    Exnos tested heatingup while heavy gaming use and throttling down from 60 to 35 fps..
    How is that much better than sd810?!

  • Laurie Miles

    The Qualcomm SD810 is also in the (much delayed) Xperia Z4 Tablet – is that also going to be affected – if so, I wonder if I should cancel my pre-order…

  • dragonsneeze

    maybe you’re right but sony is also responsible. What happened to “not outing devices just for the sake of it”? After assurances if the problems persisted they shouldn’t have outed the device everybody was fine waiting for a better option. I still don’t get why didn’t they announce it sooner cuz it seems like nothing is changed.

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    M9s sd810 heating up only 3 degrees more than s6s exynos7 on front, back results are 10 degrees more, but not reliable as those are different materials, metal heats up more than glass…

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    M9s sd810 heating up only 3 degrees more than s6s exynos7 on front, back results are 10 degrees more, but not reliable as those are different materials, metal heats up more than glass…

    So explain this test to me in regards to all badmouthing of sd810?

  • amy jackson

    Why all twitter message in English? it should be Japanese.. fake article..

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  • Shubham

    people cried over getting the 810 last year! And now when it’s here, you don’t want it! why not make up your minds?

  • Shubham

    sure samsung did not loose dominance, but it did lose some market share and earnings! which in turn gave rise to an idea of overhauling the design!

  • Joe Black

    Upravo tako.

    Plus, I wonder how come no one complains about the lag a lot of S6 edge users experienced during normal use (launcher, app drawer) due to chipset not handling the 2k resolution as everyone expected it would. Or people receiving damaged and scratched phones, after paying a shitload of money for a “top tier” phone.

    Back on track.
    The reason OEMs started using glass and metal covers is heat dissipation. So, if it’s hot on the outside, surely it would have been a hell on the inside if the cover was made of plastic, instead of glass/metal.

    Also, benchmarks…Samsung and a lot of OEMs are known to pump them up just for the sake of having bigger numbers than the competition, and the hands-on improvement can not be seen, heard or measured. Just like Asus putting 4gb ram in their phone. Sounds nice, but currently, no real benefits. At all.

  • DanielGearSolid

    Looks like im skipping it.

    Z4 tablet should be good enough

  • Aiden Pearce

    Software update might fix the issue!!!

  • Skipper

    You mean very hot.Lol

  • Either sticking to an 80x device, waiting for a miracle with the 820 or… tinkering with an 810 device to make it half usable, because open source

  • Kaarthikeyan Swaminathan

    Thats the z1 after 5 minutes gaming. Dont see an issue if its 66 on z3+

  • ph00ny

    Um every single note has been offered with Exynos

    Note 1 – Exynos for all markets except ATT
    Note 2 – Exynos
    Note 3 – Exynos in international and Snapdragon in US
    Note 4 – Exynos in international and snapdragon in US

    Few markets will vary but you get the picture

  • ph00ny

    They acquired the company that designs SoCs way back.

  • ph00ny

    Too much money. Its not easy to design SoCs. Another reason why no two SoC performa the same despite using the same ARM reference core designs

    Samaung has had a lot of practice designing DRAMs and manufacturing technology to back everything up

  • ph00ny

    They can get the 7420 if they really wanted to. Xaomi has been releasing Exynos based flagship for quite sometime now. Upcoming pro version of their flagship is using exynos 7

  • Timel

    Yeah you’re right

    I forgot the fact that Sony has no money to spend with R&D, Sony has no ability to make the great mobile chipset like Samsung and Apple, or forgot the fact that Sony is not very experienced at making processor, if Sony make its own chipset, Sony SoC will be so much worse than the SD810 definitely LOL

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    Qualcomm didnt screw anything up, these temperatures are quite normal…from Z1, Z1c, Z2, Z3, Nexus 5, etc….

    This is samsung paid marketing crap….
    And a bunch of you are swallowing it like crazy….

  • Vjekoslav Andric

    The issue is this news item is posted deliberately….one can only guess from where and whom, but it is indicative….
    This z3+ termal results are quite normal and on par with exynos7, sd 808, sd800, sd801 and sd 805…..
    This has samsung written all over it….

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  • Robin

    Any issue about self cracking display?And what about camera performance?I have a question,why Sony Xperia z3 compact looks so smaller than Xperia zr?When I hold two phones in my hand I felt Xperia zr is much bigger than Xperia z3 compact.Display size also looks small than Xperia zr.

  • Apollo89

    In which country do you live? Are there no mental health facilities over there?

  • Steve12321


    The Z3C is a bit smaller than the ZR, but its screen is a hair bigger.

  • Snorky112

    I dont have any real big issues with it, also the camera is good, may not be as good as an iphone 6 or Galaxy S6 but it’s still great, I don’t think it’s “shitty” as eveyone is saying … I mean in DXOmark Z3/Z3C scored 79, and iphone (which everyone say is the best) scored 82, it’s not that much of a difference

  • DIsChaos

    I have the same issue on my Z2 , does sony can do anything about it? And best screenshot I could take was at 67° the area near to camera is really hot dangerous

  • Abhinav Tella

    You do know HTC is believed to capped the A57 cluster to 1.6 Ghz.
    Even Xiaomi is throttling overall heavily with the latest patch even after they said they fixed heat issues. Samsung switched to the Exunos and LG G4 to the SD808 for this very reason.

    So what if they have engineers they aren’t infallible. Read the news and see how many recalls and product issues are there for various companies all the time.

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    not really.. they still has SD820, 808, 805, 801, 615, 610, etc

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  • Benjamin Levy

    I bought a Z3C in November, so I’ll wait until the Z5 or Z6 comes out before I upgrade.

  • Aiden Pearce

    not our mistake . actually these sony forums are too filled with those crapsung loving, they can’t just bare it

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    umm.. about “has no money to spend with R&D” you’re totally freakin wrong, mate.. and at least, their imaging sensors had an amazing success in these couple of years, with profits here and there

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    A COUPLE YOU SAID!!?? better give one for me

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    oh yeah, just remember than Z4T also comes with S810.. I haven’t heard a news about overheating on Z4T, though.. maybe larger devices wouldn’t impact much on overheating, because the heat circulates all over the device they used hahaha :D

  • Great Dude

    I think they only wanted to be in the market and have a phone against competitors.
    This article may help : http://www.androidauthority.com/xperia-z4-japan-602570/

  • Abhinav Tella

    I believe that cell processor was actually IBM not Sony. As for being good or bad I can’t really say…

  • Great Dude
  • Abhinav Tella

    Oddly enough it seems the Edge version of the S6 is affected by the factory scratches. Wonder if it was Corning’s fault unless they changed the glass supplier.

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  • Great Dude

    This is a good size only comparision. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Sony-Xperia-ZR,Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact/phones/7845,8744

    About smartphone camera although I don’t own one , I can tell that reviews said that it is very good camera

  • Great Dude

    thanks for linking the video

  • Svnjay

    The PS3 sold well.

  • Robin

    Thanks a lot!Now I know why Xperia z3 compact looks smaller than Xperia zr :)

  • Robin

    I see..so there’s nothing to worry about.one more question,What type of screen protection glass that sony used in this z3 compact?is it bad that screen resistance glass not used in this phone?

  • Snorky112

    I applied a rhinoshield, front and back: http://www.evolutivelabs.com/products/screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z3-compact?variant=939142469

    and I use a “barely there” clear case

    I think about changing the front to a tempered glass because the touch feels better

  • The PS3 sold well after price cuts. But it sold like crap before the $399 40GB model was introduced in late 2007.

  • Timel


    Apple has always designed its own mobile chipsets, Apple is a fabless company just like Qualcomm, Nvidia and Mediatek, these companies only design and sell their own mobile chipsets

    Apple hires Samsung Semiconductors to produce the Apple A chips
    Qualcomm hires TSMC and Samsung Semiconductors to produce the SnapDragon chips


  • Timel

    But Apple has always designed its own chipsets

  • Eddie

    i want to buy the Z4 Tablet, keyboard and everything, but im not sure anymore. the tablet itself is awesome in specs and features, but im concerned about the heat problems. im very sure that the delays are because of issues regarding heating, and Sony trying to correct them. im gonna wait till Sony offer a more stable product and the price drop. Im a little disappointed, but i really hope this tablet make it through and represent every penny it cost. Sony you better do something and fast, the wait is killing me.

  • Geese Howard

    This is a huge blow for Qualcomm. The Z3+ has some pretty decent specs, but the chip, the core is going to kill it; and this is not an issue that can be fixed with an update… How will this play out for the Z3+?

  • Electrify85

    Disappointing. I just got a clearance Xperia Z3 with two cases for $200 after tax and trade in credit with Wind, and once I customized the software (ie: disabled needless Sony apps, installed Google Now Launcher) I am falling madly in love with this device. It has the best of everything: the premium glass feel of Samsung, but with microSD support, incredible battery life, soft buttons, etc.

    With Z3 supplies falling short and the 810 becoming the black horse of Qualcomm’s lineup, such an all around 2015 performer may not hit the market. Ironically, the one year that Sony should have released two flagships is going to be the year that they release only one!

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  • Electrify85

    Just wondering, have there been any reports of the camera shutting down in the Z3+ due to overheating yet? I know this was an issue with the pre-release software build. Even if the numbers are normal and people are just being oversensitive to the heat the device gives out, when there are temporary hardware failures due to overheating, there is a problem.

    I recorded a few half hour interviews with my Galaxy S3 without the camera crashing due to overheating. I just got the Z3 to replace the aforementioned device, and while I haven’t tested out the camera, I would assume the same.

  • Abhinav Tella

    Get the Z3 instead, battery life is great, and overall you won’t be missing much from the Z3+.

  • Nawi

    Y? No 810 for that devices

  • Abhinav Tella

    Even Intel’s had its bad days, if you remember when the P4 architecture was released which was inferior to the P3 interns of instructions per Mhz, just so Intel could up clock speeds to compete with AMD as general public thinks more Mhz is always better. I remember the days when a 2 Ghz Athlon was competitive with a 3Ghz Pentium 4……

    After the last P4 debacle with heat issues and inability to reach 4Ghz stably, the went back to the drawing board with a derivative of the P3 which resulted in the great Core series line up.

  • joseph carmine nero

    Yep.i guess i was a bit angry when writing comment

  • joseph carmine nero

    IBM toshiba and sony

  • Abhinav Tella

    Thanks for correcting me, you are right, STI was their collaboration unit that developed it.

  • Droidiior

    Don’t. Use. Snapdragon 810.
    I think Snapdragon 808 would have worked fine. No one(?) really says that the G4 is that much weaker than the M9 for example. Not a good move by Sony… But that’s my opinion.

  • Electrify85

    Just want to add that heating is a symptom of deeper problems. Looking at the new HTC, the battery life takes a big hit, despite having a larger battery! I’m hoping reviews will try to recreate the overheating camera, test battery life, and see if the phone begins to slow down and lag due to throttling after extended use. Overcoming these concerns will go a long way to determining the success of this phone.

  • DBS

    Not comparable. Specially when Qualcomm was the “single” player. In the meatime, Samsung has moved their flagship – the most popular Android phone – to ANOTHER non-Qualcomm chip, Sony has moved to use a lot fo MediaTek processors too, and Asus is already using Intel chips.

    If Qualcomm doesn’t get their act together, other OEMs will follow suit. And remember, it’s the flagship chips that make Qualcomm more money (just like it’s the flagships that make OEMs money).

  • DBS

    Yes, but ARM is also moving to producing their own mobile chips. Thus eliminating the need of Qualcomm for example.

  • Alumine

    Arm licenses their ISA and core designs, but they don’t manufacture them.

  • DBS

    Google it. I remember reading something about it a couple of weeks ago (I’d pass you links if I remembered where I read it and I had the time to go search for it.)

  • inspire

    Now if you just want to exaggerate my comment out of proportions then I can’t help it.
    Never said that the issue doesn’t exist. Never said that docomo and others are idiots.
    Just said that those at Sony are smarter than someone commenting here and advising them to downclock the frequency.

  • Abhinav Tella

    Sorry I misunderstood your comment, however I was simply saying what other companies have done in similar conditions. I never said I was smarter then them either, just saying/throwing out an idea of what they could do. I wouldn’t be surprised if they released a patch that either throttles or caps the A57 cluster.

    As a person who has beta tested networking and other media products, this is where my idea came from. I have tested products where the same device had to be re-released due to heat issues where they either down clocked or changed PCB/cooling apparatus. Also a fair amount of my relatives have worked in IBMs hardware divisions. P

  • mohsen

    i look at surface pro with windows 8.1 and intel core i7, they can install all programs which can install on laptop

  • Rikimaru Azuma

    My HTC one X heat to 70 degree celcius, and it’s works great…
    Then am not worried about S810.

  • imparanoic

    sony ps3 didn’t have significant issues apart from high price (due to the custom cpu, first console to have then state of art bluray, first console with hdmi, ) etc.
    at the end of the day, this is not a Atari or Nintendo Virtual Boy with significant design faults like in the snapdragon 810, anyway, competition is good for consumer, but the issue is that could this kill off sony mobile as they were losing market share and now product issues
    personally I feel they are losing their edge (even though I love my sony xperia z2 with emulators and dual shock 3 support

  • gamer324

    yeah but what about the throttling? How do you explain a z4 posting 41k in antutu if not for thermal throttling.
    That being said, I do hope that this overheating and the related throttling is just a localised issue, and that like the original Z Sony can fix this via a software update, because thus far the z4 is the best all-round device to come out in 2015.

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  • Timel

    Wait the Z5 or Z6 please

  • Robin

    Thank You.You helps me a lot :)

  • InspectorGadget80

    No more Sony phones for me. Heck I’m not buying the Moto X3 they should of known this from the beginning. I’m getting the G4 or The NOTE V next

  • Alex

    Most modern hardware throttles nowadays. CPUs, GPUs, SOCs. Even if the SD810 throttles more than other SOCs, I’d rather have peak performance available for real world use, as I’m not bothered about benches.
    The SD810 phones aren’t the only ones which get too hot after a few mins 4k either…
    By the looks of gsmarenas comments from testing of the pre-release unit, the SD810 hasn’t affected battery life, so it still scores way better than my Nexus 5 I have been waiting to replace.

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  • Yup, agree ! Sony should instead buy some Samsung proccessors :)

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  • Abhinav Tella

    Looks like Sony openly admitted it has a heat problem now, they are saying an update is coming. Im guessing they will do what HTC did…..

    Qualcomm really screwed up this year’s flagships for many companies.


  • Abhinav Tella

    That actually is a lot, Sony has just admitted it has a heat issue, considering the phone itself warns the user in video recording…… An update is coming, probably more throttling or capping the A57 core max speed.

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  • dim

    The heat issue makes 810 so close to 800 that I have in AnTuTu scores?

  • Abhinav Tella

    I believe they used to with the NovaThor series when they had a collaboration with Ericsson, granted most of the staff was probably Ericsson

    Either way, making your own chipset is not easy, it requires a lot of resources and planning. Also you have to keep up with the rest of the market. Considering the staff cuts and overall resource crunch compared to lets say LG/Samsung it would not be a great move.

    I would consider the SD810 a one off issue, I’m sure the next one (SD820) will be great.

  • Abhinav Tella

    Apple did not, till they bought Intrinsity in 2010… Was a very good move though.

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  • Andy Roid

    Ummm.. they already missed the boat for G4, One M9, Z4/3+. Next round of flagships will be with the 820 or exynos

  • Martin

    Snapdragon is CRAP from a long long time.. They should close them… Samsung processors are so much better… :-)

  • Timel

    Yeah maybe you’re right

    Sony is very poor now
    Sony has no money to spend with R&D
    Sony is not a processor expertise, Sony can’t even design or produc it own mobile processor like Apple and Samsung

    Sony has known-how about creating mobile processor if Sony make its own chipset, Sony SoC is going to be worse than SD810 definitely LOL

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  • Svnjay

    Who made the processor in the PS3 and PS2?

    Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Also, Snapdragon processors are more powerful than Apple processors

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  • rockz0829

    Lol. You never heard of Cyclone processors? Apple designed it… Just like Qualcomm they are designed their own processors but manufactured by TSMC and or Samsung, get it?

  • Timel

    IBM made Cell Processor

    You proud about Cell processor?
    Cell architecture was a big fail

  • Svnjay

    Wrong. It was developed by Sony, Sony Computer Entertainment, Toshiba, and IBM, an alliance known as “STI”.

  • Timel

    Sony’s money
    Toshiba’s money
    IBM’s know-how and money

    Basically, IBM designed Cell Architecture.

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  • Timel

    I used to read about Cell architecture on Wikipedia website long time ago ^_^

  • Timel

    It’s clear that IBM is the maker of Cell Architecture.

    IBM filed many patents pertaining to the Cell architecture, manufacturing process, and software environment. An early patent version of the Broadband Engine was shown to be a chip package comprising four “Processing Elements”, which was the patent’s description for what is now known as the Power Processing Element (PPE). Each Processing Element contained 8 APUs, which are now referred to as SPEs on the current Broadband Engine chip. This chip package was widely regarded to run at a clock speed of 4 GHz and with 32 APUs providing 32 gigaFLOPS each, the Broadband Engine was shown to have 1 teraFLOPS of raw computing power. This design was fabricated using a 90 nm SOI process.[9]

    In March 2007, IBM announced that the 65 nm version of Cell BE is in production at its plant (at the time, now GlobalFoundries’) in East Fishkill, New York.[9][10]

    In February 2008, IBM announced that it will begin to fabricate Cell processors with the 45 nm process.[11]

    In May 2008, IBM introduced the high-performance double-precision floating-point version of the Cell processor, the PowerXCell 8i,[12] at the 65 nm feature size.

    In May 2008, an Opteron- and PowerXCell 8i-based supercomputer, the IBM Roadrunner system, became the world’s first system to achieve one petaFLOPS, and was the fastest computer in the world until third quarter 2009. The world’s three most energy efficient supercomputers, as represented by the Green500 list, are similarly based on the PowerXCell 8i.

    The 45 nm Cell processor was introduced in concert with Sony’s PlayStation 3 Slim in August 2009.[13]

    In November 2009, an IBM representative said that it has discontinued the development of a Cell processor with 32 APUs[14][15] but they have not halted development of other future products in the Cell family

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  • Timothy Crayon

    Mr. IDIOT,

    ppl who want to know more about Cell architecture will not have a glance on Wiki,

    So stupid…..

    Go back to school

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  • Timel

    Is it hard for you to accept the truth?
    Sony can’t even design its own processor LOL

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  • Timel

    You’re absolutely right!

  • Timel

    Actually the Cell Architecture is designed by IBM, IBM used their know-how and money created Cell processor.

    Sony and Toshiba do nothing but

  • jk

    ” ARM is also moving to producing their own mobile chips.”

    i live in in cambridge, and my cat goes potty in arms holding’s headquarters, he affirms he has overheard a pair of butch, feminist badgers confirm this too.

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  • Timothy Crayon

    What’s the turth? I tell you the turth ……
    You are idiot…….

    Sucksung’s doggie like you …..creature…..

    You are not educated and so I used foul language to communicate with you……poor creature!! Stay in USA forever you POOR creature……

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